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1 RODERICK GENEALOGLY (A Bit Later than Adam & Eve)

2 Frederick II Landgrave of Hesse-Cassel Married to daughter of King George II of Great Britain and Caroline of Ansbach (Germany).

3 King George III

4 Duke Carl I – Duke of Brunswick

5 HESSIAN SOLDIERS

6 GERMAN STATES SENDING SOLDIERS Hessen-Kassel:17,000 Hessen-Hanau: 2,600 Brunswick: 5,723 Waldeck: 1,225 Anhalt-Zerbst 1,119 Brandenburg-Anspach 1,040

7 HESSIAN SOLDIERS IN THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION

8 Modern Germany (16 States) Many “Hessian” Soldiers came from Lower Saxony.

9 1789 Germany

10 BUT WHAT ABOUT FREDERICK RODERICK

11 11 Questions to answer 1. Was Frederick Roderick a “Hessian Soldier”? 2. If a German soldier, from which province? Hesse-Kassel, Hesse-Hanau, Brunswick, Waldeck, Anspach-Bayreuth, or Anhalt-Zerbst. 3. If a German soldier, what was his German name? 4. Was Frederick a stonemason? 5. Was Frederick Roderick of German descent? 6. Did Frederick Roderick’s ship land on Staten Island near New York or elsewhere? 7. Did Frederick Roderick desert the British forces? 8. Did Frederick Roderick join Washington’s Army? 9. Did Frederick Roderick live in Charlottesville, Virginia? 10. The family history says that the German soldiers were “liberty-loving and decided to desert the English Army at the first opportunity and help win the independence of the American people by joining American forces.” Is there evidence that this was the case? 11. Was Frederick Roderick honorably discharged from the American Army?

12 DNA Analysis

13 Roderick vs. Rothrock DNA # Ki tLast Name HGHG a385a 385b385b |1389| |2389| a459a 459b459b a464a 464b464b 464c464c 464d464d 464e464e 464f464f 464g464g GATAH4GATAH4 YCAIIaYCAIIa YCAIIbYCAIIb CDYaCDYa CDYbCDYb S1a395S1a 395S1b395S1b S1406S a413a 413b413b German Rothrock E1b1b1E1b1b Hawk E1b1b1E1b1b Roderick E1b1b1E1b1b Roadruck R1b1b2R1b1b Roderick I2b1I2b Roderick Haplogroup: I2b1 Rothrock Haplogroup: E1b1b1 Matches = 3 of 12 – means there is no relationship

14 Frequency Distribution of Haplogroup I2b1 The center of haplogroup I2b1 is in Lower Saxony, Germany. The originator of this group must have lived in this area for a long time as so many members live here; perhaps Frederick Roderick.

15 The Viking (800 to 1066 A.D.) DYS# 390 = 23

16 HEDEBY, GERMANY – VIKING CITY

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18 Northern Germany, Denmark, & Netherlands

19 MAP OF LOWER SAXONY AREA

20 LOWER SAXONY

21 COUNTIES OF LOWER SAXONY

22 3,000 YEAR OLD SKULL FROM LICHTENSTEIN CAVE – I2b2 (Dorste, Lower Saxony, Germany)

23 Manfred Huchthausen and Uwe Lange, neighbors – closely related to each other and the skull.

24 GERMAN STONEMASONS Lower Saxony known as “Stonemason State” Apprentices only accepted for 5 years. Fathers (masons) can bind sons for 5 years. Masters accept or declare apprentices “free”. All done in presence of the lodge. Frederick had to be 19 years or older in 1776.

25 WAS THERE A QUARRY IN LOWER SAXONY, GERMANY?

26 Yes there is! Obernkirchen, Lower Saxony

27 “As one of the world's oldest active quarries, we have been supplying to projects throughout all of Europe and beyond for 1,000 years. Throughout this period, well-known master builders and architects have used our sandstone to create impressive edifices. In former times, the raw blocks were mostly quarried and hewn in one step. Initially, the master stonemasons and their assistants used muscle power and the simplest tools to break the blocks. Back then, as many as 27 master stonemasons quarried at the same time.

28 Are Brunswick, Obernkirchen, and Dorste Close to Each other?

29 Obernkirchen Quarry near Hameln—Braunschweig is “Brunswick” (Duke lived There) The Lichtenstein Cave is Near Osterode (30 miles from Hameln)

30 MODERN EUROPE

31 (SUGGESTED) HISTORY – MIGRATION OF MANKIND (Europe 50,000 years ago)

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33 ICE AGE – 18,000 YEARS AGO

34 DOGGERLAND – 8,000 to 10,000 years ago

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36 Haplogroups During Ice Age (18,000 years ago)

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38 European Haplogroup Migration – After Ice Age (12,000 years ago)

39 M253 - ASgen years M253 - P years M253 – T years M253 – AS years M253 - AS years M253 – AS years M253 – AS years M253 – AS years M253 – AS years M253 – AS7E years M253 – EE years L22 - Norse years L22 – NuN years P years L22 – uN years L22– uN years L22 – uN years L22 – uN9a years L22 – Bothnia years M26 – I2a years L161 – Isles-A years L161 – Isles-B years L161 – Isles-C years L161 – Isles-D years L69=T – Dinaric years L233 – Western years M223 – I2b1* -- Roots years M Continental years M Continental-2a years M223 – Continental-2b years M223 – Continental-2c years P78 – Continental years M284 – Isles – Eng years M284 S165 – Isles – Scot Years L I2b2 – 4100 years S31(all) – I2* years S years S years S years S31-J years Estimated TMRCAs for Y Haplogroup I Clades K Nordtvedt 1 May 2010

40 I2a3-Western I2a2a-Dinaric I2a1 I2a2b-Isles-C I2a2b-Isles-B I2a2b-Isles-A I2b2 I2*-A I1 I2*-B I2b1a1-Isles-Scot K Nordtvedt 4 Dec 2009 Generations = 16 GD { GD GD^2 } due to back mutations Green snps are very new and work products Generations Ago I2b1c-Cont I2b1-Roots I2b1-Cont ,000-18,000Years Ago I2*-C P30 P40 M253 M307 S62-66 S , L157, L lots more L34,36,59=S151,152,157 M223, S24 P = S P215=S31 S23=P217 S30=P216 S32=P218 S33=P214 S150=L35 S153=L37 L181 P37.2 M26 L158 L159 S165,166 P78 Estimated Present Arrowheads indicate clade MRCAs -24,000 M423 I2a*-F L68=S140 L38-40,65 = S ,159 S163=L69=T I1d S142=L22 DYS388=9 I2a2a-Disles I2b1a*-Isles-English M I2a2b-Isles-D L161 L178 L160 Rescaled Haplogroup I Tree L205, P109 L258 I2a1a L233 L234, L242 I2a*-Alps

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42 What About the 11 Questions?

43 11 Questions to answer 1. Was Frederick Roderick a “Hessian Soldier”? 2. If a German soldier, from which province? Hesse-Kassel, Hesse-Hanau, Brunswick, Waldeck, Anspach-Bayreuth, or Anhalt-Zerbst. 3. If a German soldier, what was his German name? 4. Was Frederick a stonemason? 5. Was Frederick Roderick of German descent? 6. Did Frederick Roderick’s ship land on Staten Island near New York or elsewhere? 7. Did Frederick Roderick desert the British forces? 8. Did Frederick Roderick join Washington’s Army? 9. Did Frederick Roderick live in Charlottesville, Virginia? 10. The family history says that the German soldiers were “liberty-loving and decided to desert the English Army at the first opportunity and help win the independence of the American people by joining American forces.” Is there evidence that this was the case? 11. Was Frederick Roderick honorably discharged from the American Army?


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