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1 RODERICK GENEALOGLY (A Bit Later than Adam & Eve)

2 Frederick II Landgrave of Hesse-Cassel Married to daughter of King George II of Great Britain and Caroline of Ansbach (Germany).

3 King George III

4 Duke Carl I – Duke of Brunswick

5 HESSIAN SOLDIERS

6 GERMAN STATES SENDING SOLDIERS Hessen-Kassel:17,000 Hessen-Hanau: 2,600 Brunswick: 5,723 Waldeck: 1,225 Anhalt-Zerbst 1,119 Brandenburg-Anspach 1,040

7 HESSIAN SOLDIERS IN THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION

8 Modern Germany (16 States) Many “Hessian” Soldiers came from Lower Saxony.

9 1789 Germany

10 BUT WHAT ABOUT FREDERICK RODERICK

11 11 Questions to answer 1. Was Frederick Roderick a “Hessian Soldier”? 2. If a German soldier, from which province? Hesse-Kassel, Hesse-Hanau, Brunswick, Waldeck, Anspach-Bayreuth, or Anhalt-Zerbst. 3. If a German soldier, what was his German name? 4. Was Frederick a stonemason? 5. Was Frederick Roderick of German descent? 6. Did Frederick Roderick’s ship land on Staten Island near New York or elsewhere? 7. Did Frederick Roderick desert the British forces? 8. Did Frederick Roderick join Washington’s Army? 9. Did Frederick Roderick live in Charlottesville, Virginia? 10. The family history says that the German soldiers were “liberty-loving and decided to desert the English Army at the first opportunity and help win the independence of the American people by joining American forces.” Is there evidence that this was the case? 11. Was Frederick Roderick honorably discharged from the American Army?

12 DNA Analysis

13 Roderick vs. Rothrock DNA # Ki tLast Name HGHG 393393 390390 1919 391391 385a385a 385b385b 426426 388388 439439 389|1389|1 392392 389|2389|2 458458 459a459a 459b459b 455455 454454 447447 437437 448448 449449 464a464a 464b464b 464c464c 464d464d 464e464e 464f464f 464g464g 460460 GATAH4GATAH4 YCAIIaYCAIIa YCAIIbYCAIIb 456456 607607 576576 570570 CDYaCDYa CDYbCDYb 442442 438438 531531 578578 395S1a395S1a 395S1b395S1b 590590 537537 641641 472472 406S1406S1 511511 425425 413a413a 413b413b 557557 594594 436436 490490 534534 450450 444444 481481 520520 446446 617617 568568 487487 572572 640640 492492 565565 German 1 5327853278 Rothrock E1b1b1E1b1b1 1212 2424 13131 1515 19191 12121 13131 3030 2 130015130015 Hawk E1b1b1E1b1b1 1212 2424 13131 1515 19191 12121 13131 3030 1515 9911 2626 1414 20203 1313 1616 1616 1717 3 149527149527 Roderick E1b1b1E1b1b1 1212 2424 13131 1515 19191 12121 13131 3030 1515 9911 2626 1414 20203 1313 1616 1616 1717 91 1919 2121 1717 1313 1717 1919 3232 3434 1313 1010 4 6930569305 Roadruck R1b1b2R1b1b2 1212 2424 141411 1414 1212 1212 1212 1313 1313 3030 1616 9 101011 2424 1515 1919 2828 1515 1515 1616 1717 11 1919 2323 1616 1414 1717 1717 3434 3838 1212 1212 5 1450714507 Roderick I2b1I2b1 1414 2323 1616 1010 1515 16161 13131 1414 1212 3131 1515 8 1010 10101 2424 1414 2020 27271 1414 1414 1515 1010 9 1919 2121 1414 1414 1616 2020 3434 39391 1010 Roderick Haplogroup: I2b1 Rothrock Haplogroup: E1b1b1 Matches = 3 of 12 – means there is no relationship

14 Frequency Distribution of Haplogroup I2b1 The center of haplogroup I2b1 is in Lower Saxony, Germany. The originator of this group must have lived in this area for a long time as so many members live here; perhaps Frederick Roderick.

15 The Viking (800 to 1066 A.D.) DYS# 390 = 23

16 HEDEBY, GERMANY – VIKING CITY

17

18 Northern Germany, Denmark, & Netherlands

19 MAP OF LOWER SAXONY AREA

20 LOWER SAXONY

21 COUNTIES OF LOWER SAXONY

22 3,000 YEAR OLD SKULL FROM LICHTENSTEIN CAVE – I2b2 (Dorste, Lower Saxony, Germany)

23 Manfred Huchthausen and Uwe Lange, neighbors – closely related to each other and the skull.

24 GERMAN STONEMASONS Lower Saxony known as “Stonemason State” Apprentices only accepted for 5 years. Fathers (masons) can bind sons for 5 years. Masters accept or declare apprentices “free”. All done in presence of the lodge. Frederick had to be 19 years or older in 1776.

25 WAS THERE A QUARRY IN LOWER SAXONY, GERMANY?

26 Yes there is! Obernkirchen, Lower Saxony

27 “As one of the world's oldest active quarries, we have been supplying to projects throughout all of Europe and beyond for 1,000 years. Throughout this period, well-known master builders and architects have used our sandstone to create impressive edifices. In former times, the raw blocks were mostly quarried and hewn in one step. Initially, the master stonemasons and their assistants used muscle power and the simplest tools to break the blocks. Back then, as many as 27 master stonemasons quarried at the same time.

28 Are Brunswick, Obernkirchen, and Dorste Close to Each other?

29 Obernkirchen Quarry near Hameln—Braunschweig is “Brunswick” (Duke lived There) The Lichtenstein Cave is Near Osterode (30 miles from Hameln)

30 MODERN EUROPE

31 (SUGGESTED) HISTORY – MIGRATION OF MANKIND (Europe 50,000 years ago)

32

33 ICE AGE – 18,000 YEARS AGO

34 DOGGERLAND – 8,000 to 10,000 years ago

35

36 Haplogroups During Ice Age (18,000 years ago)

37

38 European Haplogroup Migration – After Ice Age (12,000 years ago)

39 M253 - ASgen --- 3500 years M253 - P --- 3450 years M253 – T2 --- 3330 years M253 – AS13 --- 3360 years M253 - AS1 --- 1920 years M253 – AS8 --- 2000 years M253 – AS2 --- 1920 years M253 – AS3 --- 2030 years M253 – AS4 --- 940 years M253 – AS7E --- 1630 years M253 – EE --- 1500 years L22 - Norse --- 3000 years L22 – NuN14 --- 2750 years P109 --- 2730 years L22 – uN1 --- 2550 years L22– uN2 --- 1570 years L22 – uN9 --- 1800 years L22 – uN9a --- 1450 years L22 – Bothnia --- 1850 years M26 – I2a1 --- 6000 years L161 – Isles-A --- 1500 years L161 – Isles-B --- 5370 years L161 – Isles-C --- 2730 years L161 – Isles-D --- 2520 years L69=T – Dinaric --- 2520 years L233 – Western --- 1860 years M223 – I2b1* -- Roots --- 4650 years M223 -- Continental-1 --- 2430 years M223 -- Continental-2a --- 4140 years M223 – Continental-2b --- 3240 years M223 – Continental-2c --- 3450 years P78 – Continental-3 --- 4500 years M284 – Isles – Eng --- 3870 years M284 S165 – Isles – Scot --- 1730 Years L38 --- I2b2 – 4100 years S31(all) – I2* --- 7750 years S31-13 --- 4400 years S31-14 --- 4110 years S31-12 --- 2580 years S31-J --- 420 years Estimated TMRCAs for Y Haplogroup I Clades K Nordtvedt 1 May 2010

40 200400600 I2a3-Western I2a2a-Dinaric I2a1 I2a2b-Isles-C I2a2b-Isles-B I2a2b-Isles-A I2b2 I2*-A I1 I2*-B I2b1a1-Isles-Scot K Nordtvedt 4 Dec 2009 Generations = 16 GD { 1 +.015 GD +.00018 GD^2 } due to back mutations Green snps are very new and work products Generations Ago I2b1c-Cont I2b1-Roots I2b1-Cont -6000-12,000-18,000Years Ago I2*-C P30 P40 M253 M307 S62-66 S107-111, L157, L186-7 + lots more L34,36,59=S151,152,157 M223, S24 P219-223 = S117-120 P215=S31 S23=P217 S30=P216 S32=P218 S33=P214 S150=L35 S153=L37 L181 P37.2 M26 L158 L159 S165,166 P78 Estimated Present Arrowheads indicate clade MRCAs -24,000 M423 I2a*-F L68=S140 L38-40,65 = S154-156,159 S163=L69=T I1d S142=L22 DYS388=9 I2a2a-Disles I2b1a*-Isles-English M284 800 I2a2b-Isles-D L161 L178 L160 Rescaled Haplogroup I Tree L205, P109 L258 I2a1a L233 L234, L242 I2a*-Alps

41 http://www.bradshawfoundation.com/journey /

42 What About the 11 Questions?

43 11 Questions to answer 1. Was Frederick Roderick a “Hessian Soldier”? 2. If a German soldier, from which province? Hesse-Kassel, Hesse-Hanau, Brunswick, Waldeck, Anspach-Bayreuth, or Anhalt-Zerbst. 3. If a German soldier, what was his German name? 4. Was Frederick a stonemason? 5. Was Frederick Roderick of German descent? 6. Did Frederick Roderick’s ship land on Staten Island near New York or elsewhere? 7. Did Frederick Roderick desert the British forces? 8. Did Frederick Roderick join Washington’s Army? 9. Did Frederick Roderick live in Charlottesville, Virginia? 10. The family history says that the German soldiers were “liberty-loving and decided to desert the English Army at the first opportunity and help win the independence of the American people by joining American forces.” Is there evidence that this was the case? 11. Was Frederick Roderick honorably discharged from the American Army?


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