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1 3DS.COM © Dassault Systèmes IT Picked WHAT Computer? Anna Wood RenderBay.com Charles Culp SWtuts.com

2 3DS.COM © Dassault Systèmes Comparison of Three Systems Dell OptiplexDell T7600Dell T3610 Core i5-4570 (4 cores), 8 GB RAM Dual Xeon E5-2650 (16 cores total), 32 GB RAM Xeon E5-1620v2 (4 cores), 16GB RAM Intel Integrated VideoNVIDIA Quadro K5000AMD FirePro W5000 500GB HDD2TB HDD256MB SSD $699$6,246.40$1799 (without SSD) Cheap, Expensive and Poorly Specified, and the Suggested System

3 3DS.COM © Dassault Systèmes About Anna and Charles Design Engineer/CAD Admin for Auer Precision in Mesa, AZ RenderBay.com Anna Wood Product Development Engineer/CAD Admin at Essex Industries in St Louis, MO Designs ergonomic pilot controls SWtuts.com Charles Culp

4 3DS.COM © Dassault Systèmes Goals for Today Understand which components are important for a CAD Workstation Understand the enhancements in recent technology Understand which components provide the best value Compare a poorly built workstation with a good workstation Provide a list of good available systems, and a custom system Feel free to ask questions at any time

5 3DS.COM © Dassault Systèmes Thank You

6 3DS.COM © Dassault Systèmes Thank You Thank you also to Bill McEachern for providing the flow simulation benchmark, and Russ Johnston for providing the V3 Simulation benchmark

7 3DS.COM © Dassault Systèmes CPU It is all about Intel Tom’s Hardware compares single core operations Passmark now has a single thread benchmark: http://www.cpubenchmark.net/sin gleThread.html Both show blowouts in favor of Intel

8 3DS.COM © Dassault Systèmes Intel Today’s systems have Sandy Bridge, Ivy Bridge, or Haswell CPUs. These also known as 2 nd, 3 rd, or 4 th generation Core i5 or Core i7 processors. These are the E3 or E5 series in the Xeon line, with v2, v3, or v4 at the end of the name.

9 3DS.COM © Dassault Systèmes How Many Cores? Two is enough for modeling, but four doesn’t hurt Four is enough for occasional FEA, there is a new solver in SolidWorks 2014 (Large Problem Direct Sparse Solver) that uses more than four cores For rendering, the more the merrier

10 3DS.COM © Dassault Systèmes CPU Benchmarks Modeling Benchmark: http://www.solidmuse.com/benchmarks/ solidworks-benchmark-punch-holder/ FEA Benchmark (V3): https://forum.solidworks.com/thread/63 854 https://forum.solidworks.com/thread/63 854 Simulation Benchmark: http://www.swtuts.com/?p=700

11 3DS.COM © Dassault Systèmes Best CPU for Modeling

12 3DS.COM © Dassault Systèmes This graph does not represent true value Best CPU Value for Modeling

13 3DS.COM © Dassault Systèmes Best CPU for SolidWorks Simulation

14 3DS.COM © Dassault Systèmes Best CPU for Flow Simulation

15 3DS.COM © Dassault Systèmes Best CPU for Rendering

16 3DS.COM © Dassault Systèmes How much is enough Frame rates and user experience What requires expensive video cards Changes to SolidWorks 2014 Benchmarks: Die Assembly Press Assembly Engine Assembly Cinebench R15 Video Cards

17 3DS.COM © Dassault Systèmes AMD FirePro NVIDIA Quadro V3900 V4900 V5900 V7900 W5000 W7000 W8000 W9000 Quadro K600 Quadro K2000 Quadro K4000 Quadro K5000 Quadro K6000 V4900 $155 W5000 $440 W7000 $800 Q K2000 $430 Q K4000 $800 Q K5000 $1800 Video Cards Intel Integrated HD P4700 (E3-1285v3) HD P4600 (E3-1275v3, E3-1245v3) HD P4000 (E3-1245v2, 1275v2) Quadro 600 Quadro 2000 Quadro 4000 Quadro 5000 Quadro 6000 Q K600 $161

18 3DS.COM © Dassault Systèmes Video Card Testing Video Card Testing on a Boxx 4150XT, Core i7-4770K @ 4.3 Ghz 16 Gigs RAM, Intel 530 SSDQuadro Driver 320.78AMD Driver 13.15.2.4

19 3DS.COM © Dassault Systèmes Video Cards, SolidWorks 2013

20 3DS.COM © Dassault Systèmes Video Cards, SolidWorks 2014 SP2

21 3DS.COM © Dassault Systèmes Video Cards, SolidWorks 2014 SP2

22 3DS.COM © Dassault Systèmes Video Cards, SolidWorks 2014 SP2

23 3DS.COM © Dassault Systèmes Video Cards, Cinebench R15

24 3DS.COM © Dassault Systèmes SSDs create a significant improvement over HDD, 85% depending on usage Which brand SSDs are the best? Don’t worry about it too much, that is only a 25% gain Intel is used by pro’s for high reliability “SSD’s fail early” is a myth. As a whole they are as reliable, and maybe more reliable, than HDD when used in desktop machines http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ssd -reliability-failure-rate,2923.html http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ssd -reliability-failure-rate,2923.html SSD & HDD Overview

25 3DS.COM © Dassault Systèmes SSD & HDD Overview

26 3DS.COM © Dassault Systèmes Comparison of Three Systems Dell OptiplexDell T7600Dell T3610 Core i5-4570 (4 cores), 8 GB RAM Dual Xeon E5-2650 (16 cores total), 32 GB RAM Xeon E5-1620v2 (4 cores), 16GB RAM Intel Integrated VideoNVIDIA Quadro K5000AMD FirePro W5000 500GB HDD2TB HDD256MB SSD $699$6,246.40$1799 (without SSD) Cheap, Expensive and Poorly Specified, and the Suggested System

27 3DS.COM © Dassault Systèmes DIY vs Prebuilt vs Premium DIY – General ModelingPrebuiltPremium $907.65$1799-2271$2196-3208 and up Parts Warranty (varies)3 year warranty No guarantee on component compatibility No compatibility concerns No compatibility risk Perfectly tuned to your performance needs Limited offerings for components Overclocking means ~35% speed increase

28 3DS.COM © Dassault Systèmes DIY System CPUCore i7-4770 3.4-3.9 GHzMicrocenter$249.99Link MotherboardGigabyte GA-B85-HD3Amazon$84.99Link Memory2x8GB Crucial BallistixAmazon$134.95Link Primary DiskSanDisk Ultra Plus 256 GBAmazon$164.62Link Video CardAMD FirePro V4900Amazon$155.98Link DVDLG 24XAmazon$22.14Link Power SupplySeasonic G-Series 360WAmazon$54.99Link CaseCFI - USB 3.0 on frontAmazon$39.99 Link $907.65

29 3DS.COM © Dassault Systèmes Prebuilt Options Dell T3610/T3600HP Z230 SFFLenovo E32 $1799$2271$2249 Xeon E5-1620v2 3.7 GHzXeon E3-1240v3 3.4GHz 16 GB ECC16 GB Non-ECC16 GB ECC 1TB 7,200 HDD (eek)128 GB SSD256 GB SSD AMD FirePro W5000NVIDIA K600 What happened to the Dell T1700?

30 3DS.COM © Dassault Systèmes Prebuilt Disclaimer Page Everything was priced on January 20 th, 2014. I included all discounts and sales at that time. Prices for all prebuilt systems include Windows 7 Professional. This is approximately a $140 for purchasing the OEM version of Windows 7 on the open market. The price difference between the Dell and the HP and Lenovo is likely due to the lack of an SSD drive.

31 3DS.COM © Dassault Systèmes Premium Option - Boxx Boxx 4150 XtremeBoxx 4920 Xtreme $3208$4815 Core i7-4770K @ 4.3 GHz6-Core; Core i7-3970X @ 4.5 GHz 16 GB RAM 180 GB SSD NVIDIA Quadro K600

32 3DS.COM © Dassault Systèmes Premium Options - @Xi Computer Mtower – Custom Build $2196.18 http://www.xicomputer.com/products/q uote/printQuote.asp?configid=306707 Intel® Core™ i7-4770K @ 4.3GHz Hi-Perf. Sealed Water Cooling 3 Years System HW Warranty w/Express Advance Parts Replacement 16GB DDR3 1866MHzXi® MTower™ CM-HAF 922 Case AMD® FirePro™ W5000ASUS® Z87-C Motherboard 250GB Solid State Drive Samsung® 840 EVOWindows 7 Professional

33 3DS.COM © Dassault Systèmes Conclusions CPU is King. More cores do not decrease rebuild times That means processor design & speed are important RAM is a matter of how much is enough SSD prices have plummeted, buy one Homebuilt systems add versatility Overclocked systems mean faster SolidWorks modeling

34 3DS.COM © Dassault Systèmes More Questions? http://www.swtuts.com/?p=700 https://forum.solidworks.com/community/administration?vie w=discussions https://forum.solidworks.com/community/administration?vie w=discussions Tom’s Hardware, AnandTech, c|net http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivy_Bridge_(microarchitecture)


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