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1 Psalm 34: 17-19

2 “…not doubt-free certainty; rather, it is tenacious obedience.” John Ortberg

3 The Pain of Christianity

4 “Salvation is free. Discipleship costs.” C.Y. Kim

5 “Where are You, God?” C.Y. Kim Job 7: 17-21

6 “3 Questions that no one asks.” (but we all do - Job started it) n Is God unfair? Job 10: : 6-17

7 “3 Questions that no one asks.” (but we all do - Job started it) n Is God unfair? Job 10: : 6-17 n Is God silent? Job 19: 7 30: 20

8 “3 Questions that no one asks.” (but we all do - Job started it) n Is God unfair? Job 10: : 6-17 n Is God silent? Job 19: 7 30: 20 n Is God hidden? Job 13: : 3-5

9 “Where is God when it hurts?” Psalm 71: 12

10 “God’s great mistake?” PAIN

11 “Fearfully & Wonderfully Made” Psalm 139: 13-17

12 “When you have no experience of pain, it is rather hard to experience joy.” George Wald

13 Job 36:15 - Elihu speaks “But those who suffer he delivers in their suffering; he speaks to them in their affliction.”

14 God’s megaphone.. “God whispers to us in our pleasures, speaks in our conscience, but shouts in our pain. It is His megaphone to rouse a deaf world.” C.S. Lewis

15 The big IF... Romans 8: 16-17

16 The big IF... Romans 8: BUT verse 18

17 “light & momentary..?” II Corinthians 4: 16-18

18 What is already a part of your relationship? “Though He slay me…” Job “Your law is my delight…” David

19 Doesn’t God know that He might actually drive people away from Him? Psalm 119: 67, 71, 75

20 A faith refined... I Peter 1: 6-7 Isaiah 48: 8-11

21 As you suffer, God may not show you why, but He will show you Who. Job 38-42

22 The wicked prosper.. The righteous are afflicted.. I Peter 5: 10 Job 20: 4-5 Psalm 73

23 Rain & Sun Righteous & Unrighteous Matthew 5: 45

24 Is pain & suffering God’s punishment for our sin? Psalm 89: “If I have sinned, what have I done to you, O watcher of men? Why have You made me your target? Have I become a burden to you?” “If I have sinned, what have I done to you, O watcher of men? Why have You made me your target? Have I become a burden to you?” Job 7: 20

25 Why do bad things happen to those who love Jesus & to those loved by Jesus?

26 Is my suffering proportional to my sin? Lamentations 3: Lamentations 3: Psalm 28: 3-4 Psalm 94: 1-2 Psalm 103: 8-10 Pay ‘em back, God, but….

27 Wages of sin is….? Suffering?

28 Does God punish & discipline me? Hebrews 12: 4-11 What for?

29 Is all my pain & suffering because of my sin? John 9: 1-3 Luke 13: 1-5 John 11

30 Not “Why?” but rather... To What End? “…now I rejoice not because you were pained, but because the pain led you to turn back to God.” II Corinthians 7: 8-11 Complete Jewish Bible

31 Why won’t God just heal us?

32 Philippians 1: 29 I Peter 4: Do we allow God to use us, however He sees fit, to draw others to Him?

33 II Corinthians 12: 7-10 I Timothy 5: 23 II Timothy 4: 20 Isn’t the Bible full of examples of healing?

34 If God can heal, then why won’t He?

35 What is my perspective toward suffering?

36 Do we get what we deserve? Psalm 53: 1-3 Matthew 19: James 2: 10-11

37 Do we get what we deserve? Psalm 103: 8-18

38 Isaiah 53: 4-6 I Peter 2: What has changed about God? What has been healed?

39 Philip Yancey “Jesus gave God a face, and that face is streaked with tears.”

40 Psalm 10: 1 Psalm 10: Psalm 22: 24 “Where is God when it hurts?”

41 Psalm 119: 50 “My comfort in my suffering is this: Your promise preserves my life.”


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