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1 2014 Cloud Family Gathering Natchitoches, LA July 19 Cloud DNA Project2014 Cloud Family GatheringNatchitoches, LAJuly 19
2 Remember this when you get confused. The BasicsTake a DNA testReview matchesContact matchesExamine information receivedDo traditional researchBe patient (new people testing every day)Remember this when you get confused.
3 76 people in the Project (July 1, 2014) Test: Type number Family FinderatDNA15Geno 2.0Y-SNP, mtDNA, atDNA2FGSmtDNA6HVR112HVR29Big YY-SNPDeep Clade3Y-DNA 12Y-STR66Y-DNA 2559Y-DNA 3755Y-DNA 6719Y-DNA 111
4 The Cloud DNA Project is a “Surname” Project Surname typically passed from father-to-son – patrilinealOnly men have Y-DNA and they pass it to their sons – like the surnameY-DNA is uniquely suited to identify a paternal lineThe Y-DNA signature of a man is (virtually) identical to that of his paternal ancestors and to all their male descendants, his surname-line cousins
5 Why use Y-DNA ? Why use Y-DNA when it excludes most ancestors? It is targeted and preciseThe best test for recent and deep ancestryIt produces the most useful resultsIt can be used with Y-DNA tests from other linesHow do I research my other lines?Get your male cousins to do Y-DNA testsDo an autosomal test and work with the cousin matches
6 Y-DNA tests In our Project Y-SNP – a rare change in the DNA, defines large people groupsY-STR – a not-so-rare change in the DNAused to differentiate between family linesTest:TypenumberFamily FinderatDNA15Geno 2.0Y-SNP, mtDNA, atDNA2FGSmtDNA6HVR112HVR29Big YY-SNPDeep Clade3Y-DNA 12Y-STR66Y-DNA 2559Y-DNA 3755Y-DNA 6719Y-DNA 111
7 Haplogroup Y-SNP determines “haplogroup” They are large branches of the human familyOften separated by thousands of years.
9 Human Y-DNA Phylogenetic Tree There are five (5) distinct haplogroups (family branches or “subclades”) in our project.Four shown here – the ‘R’ branch of our Project splits into two branches further down.
10 Y Haplogroups in Project ConfirmedPredictedI-M22321J-M92Q-M3R-P25R-M26911R-P311R-U10619R-L48316R-L47R-Z160R-P312I – 4 peopleJ – 1 personN – 1 personQ – 1 personR – 59 people66 men with Y results9 are not descended from CLOUD lines
11 BURNS, CLOUD, CRUNK, RATTRAY, RHINEHART, ROGOV, STANTON, etc. Surname MatchesKitHaploEarliest knownNo.* CountryMatches98357I-M223Ruben Cloud (1799 TN)1USAKING, ASCHER201410Edward Cloud (1830 VA)0 (12 markers)198331J-M92Isom Cloud (1779 NC)N48995Q-M3Joe Cloud (1866 TX)SCHANTZR-M269Wm Cloud (1780 SC)4CLOUD, STREETERR-L48,R-L47,Z160Wm Cloud (1621 Eng)55EnglandBURNS, CLOUD, CRUNK, RATTRAY, RHINEHART, ROGOV, STANTON, etc.Kit – kit number with Family Tree DNAHaplo – haplogroup (some proven with SNP, some estimated by STR)Earliest known – earliest known ancestorNo. – number of people in the haplogroup* Country – earliest known -- not all verifiedMatches – matches in FTDNA database
12 Ancient Migration Routes these are best guessesbased on the research ofarchaelogists & anthropologistswho seek out and testindigenous populations around the worldThese cannot represent extinct people groupsor groups that haven’t been tested
13 Haplogroup I believed to have migrated out of Africa into Scandinavia.
14 Haplogroup J believed to have migrated out of Africa into NW Africa and Spain.
15 Haplogroup Q believed to have migrated out of Africa into Siberia and the Americas(Siberia, Eskimo-Aluet, Indigenous Americans).
16 Haplogroup R is believed to have migrated out of Africa into Europe.The men in our Project are R1b and allegedlymigrated into Western Europe.
17 Y Haplogroup Only Those maps reflect the Y-Haplogroups only, – the direct patrilineal line –which excludes most ancestors.You have many other lines.YOU PROBABLY HAVE ANCESTORS FROM ALL CONTINENTS.
18 HAPLOGROUPS 89% of the 66 men in our Y-Project are R1b and most of those are R1b-U106 -> R1b-L48 -> R1b-L47HaploCLOUDnot paternal CLOUDsI-M2531I-M2232J-M92N-M178Q-M3R-P25, R-M269103R-L48,R-L47,Z16041R-M312I – 4 peopleJ – 1 personN – 1 personQ – 1 personR – 59 people( Technically, the non-paternal Clouds are not in our Project )
19 Haplogroup R In our Project Cloud men in our Project in haplogroup R (51 total):HaplogroupOld nameConfirmedPredictedR-P25R1b12R-M269R1b1a217R-P311R1b1a2a1a1R-U106R1b1a2a1a1aR-L48R1b1a2a1a1a4326R-L47R1b1a2a1a1a4aR-Z160confirmed by SNPpredicted by STR
20 NAME CONFUSION Haplogroup names have changed The number of SNPs is rapidly increasingThe position of the SNP in the tree can changeThis resulted in a new naming convention
21 HAPLOGROUP NAMES Old New R1 R-M173 R1b R-M343 R1b1 R-P25 R1b1a R-P297 R1b1a2aR-L23R1b1a2a1R-L150R1b1a2a1aR-L51R1b1a2a1a1R-P311R1b1a2a1a1aR-U106R1b1a2a1a1a4R-L48Old naming convention made sense.Our “William-the-immigrant” haplogroup waspreviously called:R1b1a2a1a1a4SNPs changed position & new ones appeared.How to identify them then?The new convention is the major haplogroup followed by the SNPFor William, the haplogroup is R and the SNP is L48R1b1a2a1a1a4 is now R-L48
22 Cross-Reference for R subset of the cross-reference at right Example of changes over time:M37 – R1b2 R1b1c1 R1b1b2a R1b1a2a1a1b4a
24 Compressed tree subclades which do not apply Have been removed (A subclade is a child haplogroup)Green – confirmed for U106Red – negative for U198 and L1.Confirmed for L47 at 23andme – the violet line.Others are confirmed for:L47Z160 ( I am Z159+ which = Z160 )U106L47Z160U198-L1-
25 The Results Examine your matches Contact the ones that look promising A different haplogroup means you’re not relatedA different haplogroup can be irrelevantMay belong to a child haplogroup that isn’t listedThe FTDNA genetic distance estimate makes is easy
30 Y-STR allele values (repeats) The Y-STR resultsY-STR allele values (repeats)( DYS – DNA Y STR )HaplogrouppredictedconfirmedDifference defines family branch.All male descendants will have it also.Different haplogroups “should” mean a different familyThe predicted haplogroup is limited by number of markers testedThe confirmed haplogroup is determined by the last SNP testedAt least one man in each family group should keep up with SNP testing and enhance to next levelAll these men are in the same haplogroup
31 Remember this when you get confused. The BasicsTake a DNA testReview matchesContact matchesExamine information receivedDo traditional researchBe patient (new people testing every day)Remember this when you get confused.
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