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1 Is your son or daughter considering going to University? What you need to know and do

2 The next 5 months.. Ideally all applications from Forest will submitted by October half term Medicine, Vet and Oxbridge applications must be in by 1 st October

3 What is a University application? A single online form that is handled by UCAS UCAS forward it to each university that is applied to You can apply for a maximum of 5 courses

4 What does an application include? Personal details Academic history and courses currently being studied Predicted grades Personal statement School reference

5 The dreaded personal statement.. 42 lines long Explains why you want to do that course Reflects on what you have done to ensure it is the right course for you Reflects on your academic history (good and bad) Reflects on your interests outside school Average number of drafts 15!

6 Reference 42 lines long Written by form tutor Includes a report from each subject teacher Includes details of super-curricular activities Includes details of community work done at school and perhaps outside of school Includes any extenuating circumstances – please make sure we know of them

7 So, before the end of the term students should... Choose a course Choose a University Write a personal statement – Then write it again Go to previous line… Organise any relevant work experience

8 Vocational courses Will train you towards a specific career and is likely to lead to professional qualifications in that field Medicine, Veterinary Science, Architecture, Quantity Surveying, Physiotherapy, Primary Teaching, Speech Therapy, Engineering (Civil, Electrical, Electronic, Mechanical, Aerospace, Space, Chemical…)

9 Semi vocational courses Still vocational but a degree in the subject is not necessary for that career and not all graduates will enter the profession Law, Accountancy, Journalism, Computer Science, Food Science, Forensic Science Some courses are more vocational than others

10 Academic courses Not necessarily linked to a specific career Motivated by a passion for the subject e.g. Geography, Art, Biology, Maths, Chemistry

11 Joint, Combined and Multidisciplinary courses Natural Sciences Politics, Philosophy and Economics Combination of 2 academic subjects e.g. History and Politics Combination of an academic and a vocational e.g. Physics and Performing Arts Variable balance of major and minor options e.g. Sports Science with Management

12 Type of course Continuous at one UK institution Sandwich course Continuous at one UK institution – but with a year overseas.

13 The benefits of an academic degree are easily overlooked Microsoft: “For us it’s less about what you’ve studied and more about why you want to work for us and what you can bring” Graduate employers still often seeking good degree in any discipline + employability skills + work/voluntary experience

14 How to choose a course Think about what you enjoy Research on University websites Go to University Open Days Talk to people Think about what type of learner you are – can you learn independently or do you need a lot of ‘teacher time’.

15 Are all Sociology courses the same? Once you have chosen the course or type of course use the University websites to research the details of what is covered e.g some sociology courses expect a student to be able to learn how to USE Maths – but A level Maths is not a requirement. Some courses are assessed by only exams but some have coursework

16 How do you choose a university? – so much choice Oxbridge (Oxford and Cambridge) Russell group (24 universities all successful in commercial exploitation of their research) New Universities (founded in 1992, some were originally polytechnics, some teacher training colleges and Art and Technology institutions) Campus or City

17 Open Days Southampton University 4/5th July Bath University 19 th June Surrey University 27/28th June Brunel University 28 th June Also available in September which may help cope with clashes – but don’t leave it all until then

18 Make realistic choices Aspirations are great but make sure choices include courses that ask for lower grades Just because a student is unlikely to get AAB grades doesn’t mean they shouldn’t apply to University they just need to choose the right course (level of teaching v independent study) for them Look at how the course is assessed – find the right type for you Choosing the wrong course can lead to demotivation and stress, now and later

19 2011/ % of students dropped out of their course!! ‘I didn’t like the course’ ‘I didn’t know what else to do’ ‘I felt pushed’ ‘My accommodation was too far away from the Uni’ ‘I was burnt out after working so hard for my A levels and I couldn’t do it any more’ ‘I was made to apply to Cambridge’ 'I had too much free time and I didn’t feel I was being taught enough’ ‘I was too far away from my girlfriend/boyfriend’

20 Websites Each University has a comprehensive website

21 What happens after you have done all this and the form has gone Conditional offers based on A level grades Conditional offers based on points tariff A*= 140, A=120, B =100, C = 80, D = 60, E = 40 AS’s half of the above Dist = 120, Merit = 80, Pass = 40 Rejection

22 What we will be doing Using IT suites for EP sessions. – Course and Uni research – UCAS application Listening, advising, reviewing personal statements and cajoling students beyond an impasse. Even if a student is convinced they are not going to university he/she should still participate in this process. – The data you have to input will be required for any job/apprenticeship application – it’s all in one place – You will need to make a personal statement about yourself It’s bloomin’ hard, so this is good practice.

23 What can you do? Discuss application status – Review personal statements If they will let you. Act as a sounding board for your son/daughter Encourage open day visits – Maybe even provide transport Tread that delicate line between help and pushing too much There are often separate sessions specifically designed for parents. Use contacts to find useful work experience

24 A word about finance Support comes via loans that are only repaid when the repayments can be afforded. – Tuition fee loan and maintenance loan – Part of the maintenance loan maybe a grant https://www.gov.uk/student-finance/overview has a very good overview. https://www.gov.uk/student-finance/overview – And information on extra support available The maintenance loan will not be enough to live on, other sources of income will be needed to top this up. – Bursaries/Scholarships – Long term, interest free overdrafts – Vacation work

25 Thank you for coming Good luck! And thanks for your donations – Your £28 helped me break the £300 barrier Very much appreciated by Miss Bishop as well.


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