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1 CCS Apologetics Having a Biblical Apologetic Without Being Sorry

2 Topic 2: Can you lose your Salvation?

3 The Process This week: –Begin approach from a Theocentric, assurance perspective –Continue Theocentric perspective and then evaluate this perspective Next week: –Anthropocentric, non-secure approach –Evaluate anthropocentric approach –Quiz –Dialog from both points of view

4 Can you Lose it? Whats involved? Who Saves? How is one saved? What is the historical/biblical pattern of choosing/saving? What is offered? What was said? What are the implications? What happens at salvation? What would have to happen to lose salvation?

5 Who saves? Gen. 49:18 Exodus 14:13, 15:2 1 Sam. 2:1 2 Sam. 22:3 Psalm 3:8, 13:5, 18:2, 38:22, 51:10-17, 62:1-7, 79:9, 85:4- 7, 98:1-3 Ezekiel 16 Isaiah 12, 60, 61 Luke 1:67-79, 2:25-32 John 3:16, 4:22 (Rom. 3:1-2) Acts 4:12, 13:22-30, 28: Rom. 1:16 Eph. 1:13 1 Thess. 5:8-11 Titus 2: Peter 1:3-11 Jude 3 Rev 7:10, 19:1

6 How is one saved? Mark 10:23-27 Luke 7:36-50 John 10:7-18 Acts 2:14-21, 15:1-11, 16:30-31 Romans 5: Cor. 1:18-25, 3:10-15,

7 What is the pattern? Noah Abraham – Genesis 18:17-19 Israel – Deut. 4:32-39, 7:6-7, 10:12-16, 14:2; Ezekiel 16, 20:5 Prophets – Samuel, Ezekiel, others Priests – Deut 18:4-7 John Disciples (John 6:70, 13:18 & 26, ) Cornelius Messiah – Matt. 12:18 Paul (Acts 9:15, 22:11) Matt. 22:14; Mark 13:19- 20; John 15:12-17; Romans 11:1-11; Eph. 1:3-6; 1 Thess. 1:4, 2 Thess. 2:13 The term elect

8 Whats Offered? John 3 – Salvation – New birth – Eternal life John 10 – Goodness – Strength – Security – Protection John 14 – Presence – Help – Guidance

9 What was said? JOHN 17 6 I have manifested Your name to the men whom You gave Me out of the world; they were Yours and You gave them to Me, and they have kept Your word. 7Now they have come to know that everything You have given Me is from You; 8for the words which You gave Me I have given to them; and they received them and truly understood that I came forth from You, and they believed that You sent Me. 9I ask on their behalf; I do not ask on behalf of the world, but of those whom You have given Me; for they are Yours; 10and all things that are Mine are Yours, and Yours are Mine; and I have been glorified in them. The Father gave the disciples Jesus was faithful Jesus gives them back

10 What was said? cont... 11I am no longer in the world; and yet they themselves are in the world, and I come to You. Holy Father, keep them in Your name, the name which You have given Me, that they may be one even as We are. 12While I was with them, I was keeping them in Your name which You have given Me; and I guarded them and not one of them perished but the son of perdition, so that the Scripture would be fulfilled. Jesus intention was to leave the disciples in the world No one was lost, but the one that was intended to be lost

11 What was said? cont... 18As You sent Me into the world, I also have sent them into the world. 19For their sakes I sanctify Myself, that they themselves also may be sanctified in truth. 20I do not ask on behalf of these alone, but for those also who believe in Me through their word; 21that they may all be one; even as You, Father, are in Me and I in You, that they also may be in Us, so that the world may believe that You sent Me. Jesus intention was to leave the disciples in the world Disciples are sanctified The scope just got BIGGER Trinitarian unity is offered

12 What was said? Romans 8 28And we know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose. 29For those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brethren; 30and these whom He predestined, He also called; and these whom He called, He also justified; and these whom He justified, He also glorified. God causes everything to work toward good for those – Who love Him – Who He called – According to His Purpose The time frame is in the past for the accomplishment – Foreknew (meaning of v. 28) – Predestined – Conformed – Called – Justified – Glorified – All, already happened

13 Is God a False Prophet? 21You may say in your heart, How will we know the word which the Lord has not spoken? 22When a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the thing does not come about or come true, that is the thing which the Lord has not spoken. The prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him. Deut. 18:21-22 (emphasis added)

14 What happened? At Salvation Eternal life is promised (John 3:16) We are reborn from above (John 3:7) we are a new creation in Christ Jesus (2 Cor. 5:17) we are part of the body of Christ (1 Cor. 12:12-20) Reconciled (2 Cor 5:18-20; Col 1:20)) Redeemed (Col 1:14; 1 Pet 1:18) To lose salvation Unfulfilled promise Unreborn No longer new Creation Dismembered from the Body of Christ In eternal debt again Snatched into slavery again

15 What happened? At Salvation Old man crucified (Rom 6:6) Dead with Christ (Rom 6:4,8; Col 2:12) Dead to sin (1 Pet 2:24) Dead and Delivered from the law (Rom 7:4; Gal 3:25; 2 Cor 3:11) Sons of God (I John 3:3; 2 Cor 6:18) Adopted into the family of God (Rom 8:15, 23) To lose salvation Old man resurrected Lost benefit of Christs death Resurrected to sin Enslaved again to the Law Rejected by my Father Kicked out of Gods family

16 What happened? At Salvation Perfected forever (Heb 10:14) Justified (Rom 3:24, 5:1; 1 Cor 6:11) Made near to God (Eph 2:13) Delivered from the Powers of Darkness (Col 1:13; 2:13- 15) Translated into the Kingdom (Col 1:13) Heart circumcised in Christ (Col 2:11) To lose salvation Not forever Justice failed Removed from God Given back to powers of darkness Kicked out of the Kingdom Heart reverse circumcision

17 What happened? At Salvation A Royal Priesthood (1 Peter 2:5,9) Access to the Father (Eph 2:18; Rom 5:2; Heb 4:14-16) His Inheritance (Eph 1:18) Co-Heirs with Christ (Rom 8:17; Eph 3:6) Partners with Christ in Suffering (2 Tim 2:12; Phil 1:29; 1 Pet 2:20) Heavenly Citizens (Phil 3:20; Eph 2:19; Heb 12:22) To lose salvation Kicked out of court Lose access to Father Lose inheritance Lose position in Christ Lose ability to suffer rightly Lose heavenly citizenship

18 What happened? At Salvation Indwelt with Holy Spirit (Jn. 14:17) Sealed with the Spirit as a deposit (Eph. 1:13-14) Kept safe (Jn. 10, Jude 24) Salt and Light (Eph 5:8; Matt 5:13-15; Col 4:6; Rom 13:12) Complete in Him (Col 2:10) Possessing Every Spiritual Blessing (Eph 1:3) To lose salvation Unindwelt Seal and deposit not good Not safe in God Lose constitution Made incomplete again Lose every spiritual blessing


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