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1 Deep Ministry in a Shallow World By Chap Clark and Kara E. Powell

2 Prepared by Jennifer HansonEvangelizing and Discipling Youth, Fall 2008, Rev. Brian M. Kelly,Ph.D. What keeps us floundering in the shallow end? Is your ministry producing the deep change its supposed to? Is your ministry producing the deep change its supposed to? Your ministrys shallowness might be taking away your sense of hope Your ministrys shallowness might be taking away your sense of hope Good farmers evaluate the state of their crops Good farmers evaluate the state of their crops They dont comfort themselves by remembering previous bountiful crops They dont comfort themselves by remembering previous bountiful crops

3 Prepared by Jennifer HansonEvangelizing and Discipling Youth, Fall 2008, Rev. Brian M. Kelly,Ph.D. Shallow Solutions 3 Common solutions many youth workers impose when they begin to realize their ministries arent as deep as they would like them to be: 3 Common solutions many youth workers impose when they begin to realize their ministries arent as deep as they would like them to be: Solution 1: More of the Same Offer more activities Bigger budget More adult workers

4 Prepared by Jennifer HansonEvangelizing and Discipling Youth, Fall 2008, Rev. Brian M. Kelly,Ph.D. Whats the problem? Whats the problem? Our culture changes Our theology changes (our understanding about God) Our churches change You change

5 Prepared by Jennifer HansonEvangelizing and Discipling Youth, Fall 2008, Rev. Brian M. Kelly,Ph.D. Solution 2: It Worked for My Friend However, what worked for their church might not work for your church. Solution 3: Thats What the Book Said We believe we can cut and paste the results we see in youth ministry expert books into our ministry.

6 Prepared by Jennifer HansonEvangelizing and Discipling Youth, Fall 2008, Rev. Brian M. Kelly,Ph.D. What we need: New Ideas That Take Us Deeper Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results How do you feel about learning new, deeper ideas? How do you feel about learning new, deeper ideas? What makes you nervous about it? What makes you nervous about it? What appeals to you? What appeals to you?

7 Prepared by Jennifer HansonEvangelizing and Discipling Youth, Fall 2008, Rev. Brian M. Kelly,Ph.D. But now let us try a subversive thought. Suppose our failures occur, not in spite of what we are doing, but precisely because of it –Dallas Willard, The Divine Conspiracy

8 Prepared by Jennifer HansonEvangelizing and Discipling Youth, Fall 2009, Rev. Brian M. Kelly,Ph.D.

9 Prepared by Jennifer HansonEvangelizing and Discipling Youth, Fall 2008, Rev. Brian M. Kelly,Ph.D. Deep Method: Whats our plan for going deeper? If our goal is deeper youth ministry, we need a whole new way of doing ministry If our goal is deeper youth ministry, we need a whole new way of doing ministry We want thorough, deep reflection…but nothing too complicated We want specifics…but room for creativity We want it to be practical…but more than the usual Tips and Tricks We want sensitivity to our own unique contexts…but to still learn from other ministries Ultimately though, we want our ministries to be all that Jesus wants them to be!

10 Prepared by Jennifer HansonEvangelizing and Discipling Youth, Fall 2008, Rev. Brian M. Kelly,Ph.D. Deep Design Deep Design is a four step process Deep Design is a four step process Step 1 (Discernment): Now? Step 2 (Reflection): New? Step 3 (Observation): Who? Step 4 (Application): How? It will be messy –the actual process isnt always clean, neat, or linear.

11 Prepared by Jennifer HansonEvangelizing and Discipling Youth, Fall 2008, Rev. Brian M. Kelly,Ph.D. Deep Design

12 Prepared by Jennifer HansonEvangelizing and Discipling Youth, Fall 2008, Rev. Brian M. Kelly,Ph.D. Step 1 (Discernment): Now? We need to slow down and discern what God is up to in our ministries Now. We need to slow down and discern what God is up to in our ministries Now. What does God intend? What does God intend? Transformation –In our individual lives, in our churches and communities, and in our larger world Transformation –In our individual lives, in our churches and communities, and in our larger world Romans 12:1-2: Dont conform, but be transformed... Romans 12:1-2: Dont conform, but be transformed...

13 Prepared by Jennifer HansonEvangelizing and Discipling Youth, Fall 2008, Rev. Brian M. Kelly,Ph.D. 3 Now questions… 1. What type of transformation is God bringing about now? 1. What type of transformation is God bringing about now? 2. What is creating space for Gods transformation now? 2. What is creating space for Gods transformation now? 3. What is hindering Gods transformation now? 3. What is hindering Gods transformation now?

14 Prepared by Jennifer HansonEvangelizing and Discipling Youth, Fall 2008, Rev. Brian M. Kelly,Ph.D. Whats the process for answering these Now sub-questions? Whats the process for answering these Now sub-questions? Short answer is through experience Short answer is through experience Not just your experience…collective experience Not just your experience…collective experience Invite other adult leaders, parents, and students to be a part of your Now conversation Invite other adult leaders, parents, and students to be a part of your Now conversation Where in your ministry do you see actions and attitudes that resemble Jesus life and ministry? Where in your community are the passions of Jesus being expressed?

15 Prepared by Jennifer HansonEvangelizing and Discipling Youth, Fall 2008, Rev. Brian M. Kelly,Ph.D. Step 1 in action: our small groups now Hypothetical situation: small groups program Hypothetical situation: small groups program What type of transformation is God bringing about now? God has brought enough small group leaders and has brought a few new students to the ministry every month who want to be connected in small groups

16 Prepared by Jennifer HansonEvangelizing and Discipling Youth, Fall 2008, Rev. Brian M. Kelly,Ph.D. What is creating space for Gods transformation now? Small group leaders have initial training. Some small groups leaders are integrating times of worship into their meetings, which students enjoy. What is hindering Gods transformation now? Many of the new leaders are young and asking for more mentoring and coaching than we are currently providing. Relationships in groups are pretty shallow. Students apathetic about studying Scripture. Groups arent serving those on the outside.

17 Prepared by Jennifer HansonEvangelizing and Discipling Youth, Fall 2008, Rev. Brian M. Kelly,Ph.D. Step 2 (Reflection): New? Reflect upon new ideas and insights that speak to the issues that arose in step 1 Reflect upon new ideas and insights that speak to the issues that arose in step 1 Ask four sub-questions about new ideas: Ask four sub-questions about new ideas: 1.What does Scripture say? 2.What does history say? 3.What does research say? 4.What does experience say?

18 Prepared by Jennifer HansonEvangelizing and Discipling Youth, Fall 2008, Rev. Brian M. Kelly,Ph.D. What does Scripture say? Scripture has two types of authority: Scripture has two types of authority: Historical authority –Gods commands to people in Biblical times Normative authority –When properly interpreted, the Bible helps us understand Gods commands to us today -Instead of skimming the surface-level meaning of Scripture, we need to treat it like a great poem, and meditate upon its beauty and significance. -We will keep learning new insights- not just about the scene being described, but the One doing the writing

19 Prepared by Jennifer HansonEvangelizing and Discipling Youth, Fall 2008, Rev. Brian M. Kelly,Ph.D. What does History say? Traditions and teachings from the past Traditions and teachings from the past In our hunt for fresh ideas, we in youth ministry often disregard the outdated wisdom of those whove studied and served God before us In our hunt for fresh ideas, we in youth ministry often disregard the outdated wisdom of those whove studied and served God before us Perhaps you will need to translate the beliefs and traditions of your church and youth ministry in fresh ways for your students Perhaps you will need to translate the beliefs and traditions of your church and youth ministry in fresh ways for your students

20 Prepared by Jennifer HansonEvangelizing and Discipling Youth, Fall 2008, Rev. Brian M. Kelly,Ph.D. John Wesleys questions for small groups… 1. What known sins have you committed since our last meeting? 1. What known sins have you committed since our last meeting? 2. What temptations have you met? 2. What temptations have you met? 3. How were you delivered? 3. How were you delivered? 4. What have you thought, said, or done, of which you doubt whether it be sin or not? 4. What have you thought, said, or done, of which you doubt whether it be sin or not?

21 Prepared by Jennifer HansonEvangelizing and Discipling Youth, Fall 2008, Rev. Brian M. Kelly,Ph.D. What does Research say? Roll-Up-Your-Sleeves-With-Kids research Roll-Up-Your-Sleeves-With-Kids research Research that puts adults in the position of listeners and students in the position of youth-culture experts Research that puts adults in the position of listeners and students in the position of youth-culture experts

22 Prepared by Jennifer HansonEvangelizing and Discipling Youth, Fall 2008, Rev. Brian M. Kelly,Ph.D. What does Experience say? Your church, your community, and your kids are unlike any others Your church, your community, and your kids are unlike any others You as a leader are unlike any other leader You as a leader are unlike any other leader By putting your experience under a microscope, youll see the tiny nuances and hidden principles that you might otherwise miss By putting your experience under a microscope, youll see the tiny nuances and hidden principles that you might otherwise miss

23 Prepared by Jennifer HansonEvangelizing and Discipling Youth, Fall 2008, Rev. Brian M. Kelly,Ph.D. Step 3 (observation): Who? Observe others who have come up with new insights similar to ours (Step 2) and are already trying to go deeper Observe others who have come up with new insights similar to ours (Step 2) and are already trying to go deeper Ask 3 questions: Ask 3 questions: What are some ways others are applying these new insights to their ministries? In what ways are their situations similar to ours? In what ways are they different?

24 Prepared by Jennifer HansonEvangelizing and Discipling Youth, Fall 2008, Rev. Brian M. Kelly,Ph.D. Step 3 (observation): Who? www.barnabasmissions.org www.barnabasmissions.org www.barnabasmissions.org http://www.fuller.edu/ http://www.fuller.edu/ http://www.fuller.edu/ http://www.cyfm.net/ http://www.cyfm.net/ http://www.cyfm.net/ http://www.strategicdigitaloutreach.com/ http://www.strategicdigitaloutreach.com/ http://www.strategicdigitaloutreach.com/ http://www.barna.org/FlexPage.aspx?Pag e=Home http://www.barna.org/FlexPage.aspx?Pag e=Home http://www.barna.org/FlexPage.aspx?Pag e=Home http://www.barna.org/FlexPage.aspx?Pag e=Home

25 Prepared by Jennifer HansonEvangelizing and Discipling Youth, Fall 2008, Rev. Brian M. Kelly,Ph.D. Application questions… For Small Group Discussion

26 Prepared by Jennifer HansonEvangelizing and Discipling Youth, Fall 2008, Rev. Brian M. Kelly,Ph.D. Application questions… 1. Who from your ministry should you involve in these Deep Design discussions? 1. Who from your ministry should you involve in these Deep Design discussions? 2. Questions from step 1: What type of transformation is God bringing about? What is creating space for this transformation? What is hindering it? 2. Questions from step 1: What type of transformation is God bringing about? What is creating space for this transformation? What is hindering it? 3. What are your students like? What about their parents? How would you describe the adult leaders in your ministry? What about your church? Your community? 3. What are your students like? What about their parents? How would you describe the adult leaders in your ministry? What about your church? Your community?

27 Prepared by Jennifer HansonEvangelizing and Discipling Youth, Fall 2008, Rev. Brian M. Kelly,Ph.D. Application questions cont… 4. What role does Scripture usually play in finding new ideas for your ministry? What role do you want it to play? If there is a difference in your answers, what does this tell you? 4. What role does Scripture usually play in finding new ideas for your ministry? What role do you want it to play? If there is a difference in your answers, what does this tell you? 5. Do you agree that history, research, and experience are all important ways to learn new insights? Why or why not? 5. Do you agree that history, research, and experience are all important ways to learn new insights? Why or why not? 6. Who in ministry have you tended to follow in the past? When, if at all, did you diverge from their models, and why did you decide to branch out on your own journey? 6. Who in ministry have you tended to follow in the past? When, if at all, did you diverge from their models, and why did you decide to branch out on your own journey?


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