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4 the...antiquity of man has of itself no theological significance. It is to theology, as such, a matter of entire indifference how long man has existed on earth (B. B. Warfield, 1911, emphasis added) the...antiquity of man has of itself no theological significance. It is to theology, as such, a matter of entire indifference how long man has existed on earth (B. B. Warfield, 1911, emphasis added) Commonly Believed Oft-Repeated Untrue

5 Why I Believe the Creation is Young Why I Believe the Creation is Young And Why I Think it Matters And Why I Think it Matters

6 The Fossil Record 1st Sea Animals 1st Vertebrates 1st Land Animals 1st Insects 1st Flying Vertebrates 1st Land Plants 1st Grasses 1st Fruit Trees Worldwide Sequence Worldwide Sequence A Record Of......Death (billions) …Extinction (>200,000) …Thorns …Carnivory 3° 1° 2° 4°

7 The Fossil Record A Record Of......Death (billions) …Extinction (>200,000) …Thorns …Carnivory 3° 1° 2° 4° …Disease 1st Sea Animals 1st Vertebrates 1st Land Animals 1st Insects 1st Flying Vertebrates 1st Land Plants 1st Grasses 1st Fruit Trees

8 The Fossil Record A Record Of......Death (billions) …Extinction (>200,000) …Thorns …Carnivory 3° 1° 2° 4° …Disease …Suffering 1st Sea Animals 1st Vertebrates 1st Land Animals 1st Insects 1st Flying Vertebrates 1st Land Plants 1st Grasses 1st Fruit Trees

9 The Fossil Record 3° 1° 2° 4° 1st Sea Animals 1st Vertebrates 1st Land Animals 1st Insects 1st Flying Vertebrates 1st Land Plants 1st Grasses 1st Fruit Trees

10 3° 1° 2° 4° (Observed) Biostratigraphic Column Biostratigraphic Column 1st Sea Animals 1st Vertebrates 1st Land Animals 1st Insects 1st Flying Vertebrates 1st Land Plants 1st Grasses 1st Fruit Trees

11 3° 1° 2° 4° (Observed) Biostratigraphic Column Biostratigraphic Column + + Radiometric Dating Radiometric Dating 3° 1° 2° 4° 65 m.y. 248 m.y. 530 m.y m.y m.y. 2 m.y. Chronologic Column Chronologic Column (Inferred) 1st Sea Animals 1st Vertebrates 1st Land Animals 1st Insects 1st Flying Vertebrates 1st Flying Vertebrates 1st Land Plants 1st Grasses 1st Fruit Trees

12 Chronologic Column Chronologic Column (Inferred) Earth > 3.8 Billion Years Old Earth > 3.8 Billion Years Old Humans Hundreds of Millions of Years BEFORE MAN Hundreds of Millions of Years BEFORE MAN (>1,000,000,000,000,000,000) Extinction (>5,000,000,000) Thorns Carnivory Disease Suffering Death A Record Of... 3° 1° 2° 4° 65 m.y. 248 m.y. 530 m.y m.y m.y. 2 m.y.

13 Chronologic Column Chronologic Column (Inferred) Humans Worldwide First Human Fossils Short-Lived (~30 Years?) Omnivorous / Carnivorous Populations of Males & Females Distinct Races First Agriculture First (Stone) Tools First Cities 3° 1° 2° 4° 65 m.y. 248 m.y. 530 m.y m.y m.y. 2 m.y.

14 1. Adam 2. Seth 3. Enos 4. Cainan 5. Mahalaleel 6. Jared 7. Enoch 8. Methuselah 9. Lamech 10. Noah 11. Shem 12. Arphaxad 13. Salah 14. Eber 15. Peleg 16. Reu 17. Serug 18. Nahor 19. Terah 20. Abram… 11. Shem… Direct (Ge. 5-11) Direct (Ge. 5-11) (Jude 14) 7 th (Jude 14) 7 th Direct (10:22) Direct (10:22) Named (5:29) Named (5:29) Named (4:26) Named (4:26) Named (4:25; 5:3-4) Named (4:25; 5:3-4) Direct (10:25) Direct (10:25) Direct (Ge. 10, 24) Direct (Ge. 10, 24) (155.6*5) + 6(43.75*5) < 8,900 Years Genesis 5 Genesis 11

15 Chronologic Column Chronologic Column (Inferred) Humans Worldwide First Human Fossils Short-Lived (~30 Years?) Omnivorous / Carnivorous Populations of Males & Females Distinct Races Noah Babel Adam (Hundreds of) Thousands of Years BEFORE GENESIS STORIES (Hundreds of) Thousands of Years BEFORE GENESIS STORIES First Agriculture First (Stone) Tools First Cities 3° 1° 2° 4° 65 m.y. 248 m.y. 530 m.y m.y m.y. 2 m.y.

16 Radiometric Dating Radiometric Dating 1st Sea Animals 1st Vertebrates 1st Land Animals 1st Insects 1st Flying Vertebrates 1st Flying Vertebrates 1st Land Plants 1st Grasses 1st Fruit Trees 3° 1° 2° 4° (Observed) Biostratigraphic Column Biostratigraphic Column + + Man Eating Meat Man Worldwide Human Races Cities Tools Man Short-Lived

17 3° 1° 2° 4° (Observed) Biostratigraphic Column Biostratigraphic Column Biblical Events Biblical Events 3° 1° 2° 4° 4.5 k.y. 6 k.y. 4 k.y. Chronologic Column Chronologic Column (Inferred) Babel Pre-Flood Flood 1st Sea Animals 1st Vertebrates 1st Land Animals 1st Insects 1st Flying Vertebrates 1st Flying Vertebrates 1st Land Plants 1st Grasses 1st Fruit Trees Man Eating Meat Man Worldwide Human Races Cities Tools Man Short-Lived

18 Creation In 6 Days (Gen. 1:1-31) Creation In 6 Days (Gen. 1:1-31) Creation Order: Earth ere Sun Flying ere Land Plants ere Animals (Gen. 1:1-28) Creation Order: Earth ere Sun Flying ere Land Plants ere Animals (Gen. 1:1-28) Humans Herbivorous (Ge. 1:29) Humans Herbivorous (Ge. 1:29) Genesis 1 3° 1° 2° 4° Old Babel Flood Young Origin in 14 Billion Years Origin in 14 Billion Years Origin Order: Sun ere Earth Land ere Flying Animals ere Plants Origin Order: Sun ere Earth Land ere Flying Animals ere Plants Humans Omnivorous Humans Omnivorous Chronologic Column Not vs. Bible Claims Chronologic Column Not vs. Bible Claims Genesis 1 Seems To Be Wrong Genesis 1 Seems To Be Wrong Genesis 1 Can Be True Genesis 1 Can Be True All Animals Herbivorous (Ge. 1:30) All Animals Herbivorous (Ge. 1:30) Many Carnivorous Animals Many Carnivorous Animals

19 Man Soul-Life (vs. 7) Man Soul-Life (vs. 7) 1 River 4 (vss ) 1 River 4 (vss ) Adam Named All Land Animals & Birds (vss ) Adam Named All Land Animals & Birds (vss ) Genesis 2 Soul-Life Man Soul-Life Man 3 Rivers 1? Eden Non-Existant Eden Non-Existant Chronologic Column Not vs. Bible Claims Chronologic Column Not vs. Bible Claims Genesis 2 Seems to Be Wrong Genesis 2 Seems to Be Wrong Genesis 2 Can Be True Genesis 2 Can Be True Garden of Eden (vss. 8-14) Garden of Eden (vss. 8-14) Eve From Side of Adam (vss.21-2) Eve From Side of Adam (vss.21-2) Millions of Spp. Extinct Before Adam Millions of Spp. Extinct Before Adam Male & Female Before Adam Male & Female Before Adam 3° 1° 2° 4° Old Babel Flood Young

20 Man Would Have Lived Forever & ere Flood 900 Years (Ge. 3:22) Man Would Have Lived Forever & ere Flood 900 Years (Ge. 3:22) Genesis 3 Thorns & Thistles 10 6 Yrs. ere Adam Thorns & Thistles 10 6 Yrs. ere Adam Chronologic Column Not vs. Bible Claims Chronologic Column Not vs. Bible Claims Genesis 3 Seems to Be Wrong Genesis 3 Seems to Be Wrong Genesis 3 Can Be True Genesis 3 Can Be True Thorns, Thistles, Weeds After Mans Sin (Ge. 3:18) Thorns, Thistles, Weeds After Mans Sin (Ge. 3:18) Man Lived < 30 Years Man Lived < 30 Years Eve Mother of All Humans (Ge. 3:20) Eve Mother of All Humans (Ge. 3:20) Some Humans From Eve Some Humans From Eve 3° 1° 2° 4° Old Babel Flood Young

21 1 st Tools Made by Offspring of Adam (Ge. 4:17, 21-2) 1 st Tools Made by Offspring of Adam (Ge. 4:17, 21-2) Cain & Abel: Agriculture (Ge. 4:2) Cain & Abel: Agriculture (Ge. 4:2) Man Would Have Lived Forever & ere Flood 900 Years (Ge. 5:3-32) Man Would Have Lived Forever & ere Flood 900 Years (Ge. 5:3-32) Genesis st Tools 10 5 Yrs. ere Adam 1 st Tools 10 5 Yrs. ere Adam Agriculture Before Adam Agriculture Before Adam Chronologic Column Not vs. Bible Claims Chronologic Column Not vs. Bible Claims Genesis 4 & 5 Seems to Be Wrong Genesis 4 & 5 Seems to Be Wrong Genesis 4 & 5 Can Be True Genesis 4 & 5 Can Be True Cain Built 1 st City (Ge. 4:17) Cain Built 1 st City (Ge. 4:17) Man Lived < 30 Years Man Lived < 30 Years 1 st City Built Before Adam 1 st City Built Before Adam Cain & Abel: Religion (Ge. 4:3-5) Cain & Abel: Religion (Ge. 4:3-5) Religion Before Adam Religion Before Adam 3° 1° 2° 4° Old Babel Flood Young

22 Noah All Living Humans (Ge. 7:23) Noah All Living Humans (Ge. 7:23) Flood Global (Ge. 7:11-8:14) Flood Global (Ge. 7:11-8:14) Man First Eats Meat After Flood (Ge. 9:3) Man First Eats Meat After Flood (Ge. 9:3) Genesis 6-9 Noah Some Living Humans Noah Some Living Humans Flood Local Races 10 5 Yrs. ere Noah Races 10 5 Yrs. ere Noah Race Evidence Is Post-Noah Race Evidence Is Post-Noah Genesis 6,7,8,9 Seems to Be Wrong Genesis 6,7,8,9 Seems to Be Wrong Genesis 6,7,8,9 Can Be True Genesis 6,7,8,9 Can Be True Races Are Post-Noah (Ge. 7:23) Races Are Post-Noah (Ge. 7:23) Land Animals All On the Ark (Ge. 6:19-20) Land Animals All On the Ark (Ge. 6:19-20) Man Ate Meat 10 5 Yrs. ere Noah Man Ate Meat 10 5 Yrs. ere Noah Millions of Spp. Extinct Millions of Spp. Extinct All Human Fossils Post-Noah All Human Fossils Post-Noah Human Omnivory Evidence Post-Flood Human Omnivory Evidence Post-Flood Flood Evidence Global Flood Evidence Global Land Animal Fossils Post-Flood Land Animal Fossils Post-Flood 3° 1° 2° 4° Old Babel Flood Young

23 Post-Flood Humans Lived Centuries (Ge. 11:10-32) Post-Flood Humans Lived Centuries (Ge. 11:10-32) Genesis Humans Lived < 30 Years Humans Lived < 30 Years Some Humans From Babel Some Humans From Babel All Human Fossils Post-Babel All Human Fossils Post-Babel Genesis 10 & 11 Seems to Be Wrong Genesis 10 & 11 Seems to Be Wrong Genesis 10 & 11 Can Be True Genesis 10 & 11 Can Be True All Humans From Babel (Ge. 10:1-11:9) All Humans From Babel (Ge. 10:1-11:9) Erectus Morphology From Age? Erectus Morphology From Age? Some Languages From Babel Some Languages From Babel All Languages Could be from Babel All Languages Could be from Babel All Languages From Babel (Ge. 11:1-9) All Languages From Babel (Ge. 11:1-9) 3° 1° 2° 4° Old Babel Flood Young

24 If the Earth is Old Genesis 1-11 (20% of the Chapters of Genesis) Genesis 1-11 (20% of the Chapters of Genesis) Seem to Be Wrong Parts of 23 Psalms (>15% of the Psalms) Parts of 23 Psalms (>15% of the Psalms) Parts of 18 OT Books (>45% of OT Books) Parts of 18 OT Books (>45% of OT Books) Parts of 7 NT Books (>25% of NT Books) Parts of 7 NT Books (>25% of NT Books)

25 Scripture Is Unchanging (e.g. Mt. 5:18) Scripture Is Unchanging (e.g. Mt. 5:18) The Christian Doctrine of the Scriptures The Christian Doctrine of the Scriptures Scripture Is Changed to Accommodate Science Scripture Is Changed to Accommodate Science Scripture is Not True Scripture is Not True Scripture Is Not Contradicted Scripture Is Not Contradicted The Traditional Christian Doctrine Of the Scriptures Must Be Rejected The Traditional Christian Doctrine Of the Scriptures Must Be Rejected The Traditional Christian Doctrine Of the Scriptures Can Be Accepted The Traditional Christian Doctrine Of the Scriptures Can Be Accepted Scripture Is True (e.g. Ps. 19:7) Scripture Is True (e.g. Ps. 19:7) Scripture Can Be Understood As It Has Been Scripture Can Be Understood As It Has Been 3° 1° 2° 4° Old Babel Flood Young

26 Heaven Will Be A Rest (As God Rested in Creation: Mt. 5:18) Heaven Will Be A Rest (As God Rested in Creation: Mt. 5:18) The Christian Doctrine of Eschatology The Christian Doctrine of Eschatology Gods Rest Is Full of Sin & Natural Evil Gods Rest Is Full of Sin & Natural Evil 1 st Heaven & Earth Not Perfect 1 st Heaven & Earth Not Perfect 1 st Heaven & Earth Can Be Perfect 1 st Heaven & Earth Can Be Perfect The Traditional Christian Doctrine Of Eschatology Must Be Rejected The Traditional Christian Doctrine Of Eschatology Must Be Rejected The Traditional Christian Doctrine Of Eschatology Can Be Accepted The Traditional Christian Doctrine Of Eschatology Can Be Accepted Heaven Will Be Perfect (As 1 st Heaven & Earth: Is. 65:17) Heaven Will Be Perfect (As 1 st Heaven & Earth: Is. 65:17) Creation Rest Can Be Perfect Rest Creation Rest Can Be Perfect Rest Christs Return Will Be Global (As Flood was Global: Mt. 5:18) Christs Return Will Be Global (As Flood was Global: Mt. 5:18) Flood Local Flood Local Flood Global Flood Global 3° 1° 2° 4° Old Babel Flood Young

27 Capital Punishment (b/c Image of God: Ge. 9:6) Capital Punishment (b/c Image of God: Ge. 9:6) The Christian Doctrine of Man The Christian Doctrine of Man Humans In Image of Apes Humans In Image of Apes Humans In Image of Apes Humans In Image of Apes Humans Can Be In Image of God Humans Can Be In Image of God The Traditional Christian Doctrine Of Man Must Be Rejected The Traditional Christian Doctrine Of Man Must Be Rejected The Traditional Christian Doctrine Of Man Can Be Accepted The Traditional Christian Doctrine Of Man Can Be Accepted No Swearing Against Man (b/c Image of God: Ja. 3:8-10) No Swearing Against Man (b/c Image of God: Ja. 3:8-10) Humans Can Be In Image of God Humans Can Be In Image of God Mans Sin Led to Death, Disease, & Suffering (e.g. Ro. 5) Mans Sin Led to Death, Disease, & Suffering (e.g. Ro. 5) Death, Disease, & Suffering Before Man Death, Disease, & Suffering Before Man Death, Disease, & Suffering Can Be Due to Man Death, Disease, & Suffering Can Be Due to Man 3° 1° 2° 4° Old Babel Flood Young

28 Marriage Unbreakable (b/c Eve Created by God: Mt. 19:3-9) Marriage Unbreakable (b/c Eve Created by God: Mt. 19:3-9) The Christian Doctrine of Marriage The Christian Doctrine of Marriage Couples Before Adam & Eve Couples Before Adam & Eve Women Preceded Adam Women Preceded Adam Eve Can Have Been Created from Adam Eve Can Have Been Created from Adam The Traditional Christian Doctrine Of Marriage Must Be Rejected The Traditional Christian Doctrine Of Marriage Must Be Rejected The Traditional Christian Doctrine Of Marriage Can Be Accepted The Traditional Christian Doctrine Of Marriage Can Be Accepted Husband is Head of Wife (b/c Eve Made from Adam: I Co. 11:3-10) Husband is Head of Wife (b/c Eve Made from Adam: I Co. 11:3-10) 3° 1° 2° 4° Old Babel Flood Young

29 Man Fell From Perfection Man Fell From Perfection The Christian Doctrine of Salvation The Christian Doctrine of Salvation Man Never Fell From Perfection Man Never Fell From Perfection Man Never In Perfection Man Never In Perfection Man May Have Been In Perfection Man May Have Been In Perfection The Traditional Christian Doctrine Of Salvation Must Be Rejected The Traditional Christian Doctrine Of Salvation Must Be Rejected The Traditional Christian Doctrine Of Man Can Be Accepted The Traditional Christian Doctrine Of Man Can Be Accepted Man Was Created In Perfection Man Was Created In Perfection Man Could Have Fallen Man Could Have Fallen Man Needs Salvation Man Needs Salvation Man Not in Need Of Salvation Man Not in Need Of Salvation Christ is the Only Solution Christ is the Only Solution 3° 1° 2° 4° Old Babel Flood Young

30 God is Truth (e.g. Ps. 100:3-5) God is Truth (e.g. Ps. 100:3-5) The Christian Doctrine of God The Christian Doctrine of God Scripture is Untrue Scripture is Untrue God Was Slow In Creation God Was Slow In Creation God Was Quick In Judgment God Was Quick In Judgment The Traditional Christian Doctrine Of God Must Be Rejected The Traditional Christian Doctrine Of God Must Be Rejected The Traditional Christian Doctrine Of God Can Be Accepted The Traditional Christian Doctrine Of God Can Be Accepted God is Fearful In Judgment (Ps. 33:8-9) God is Fearful In Judgment (Ps. 33:8-9) Scripture Can Be True Scripture Can Be True God Used Millions of Years Of Death, Disease, & Suffering God Used Millions of Years Of Death, Disease, & Suffering Creation without Death, Disease, & Suffering Creation without Death, Disease, & Suffering God is Merciful (e.g. Ps. 100:3-5) God is Merciful (e.g. Ps. 100:3-5) God is Good (e.g. Ps. 100:3-5) God is Good (e.g. Ps. 100:3-5) 3° 1° 2° 4° Old Babel Flood Young

31 Gods Nature Gods Nature Nature of Original Creation Nature of Original Creation Nature of Original Scripture Nature of Original Scripture teaches US about truthful perfect truthful perfect good w/o error good w/o error God is good Truth perfect w/o error... God is good Truth perfect w/o error... truthful perfect truthful perfect good w/o error good w/o error God is one wise provider powerful… God is one wise provider powerful… The Christian Doctrine of God

32 If the Earth is Old Original Creation Was Full of Death, Disease, & Suffering Original Creation Was Full of Death, Disease, & Suffering Original Scripture Was Grossly Erroneous Original Scripture Was Grossly Erroneous teaches US that God is not truthful; God is not loving; God is not a provider; God is not merciful... God is not truthful; God is not loving; God is not a provider; God is not merciful... God is not the Christian God

33 If the Earth is Young Original Creation Could Have Lacked Natural Evil Original Creation Could Have Lacked Natural Evil Original Scripture Could Have Been Truthful Original Scripture Could Have Been Truthful teaches US that God can be Truth; God can be loving; God can be provider; God can be merciful... God can be Truth; God can be loving; God can be provider; God can be merciful... God can be the Christian God

34 The Claims of Genesis 1-11 Are the Foundation of Every Christian Doctrine We Hold Dear The Claims of Genesis 1-11 Are the Foundation of Every Christian Doctrine We Hold Dear To Reject Any Claim in Genesis 1-11 Ultimately Undermines All of Christianity To Reject Any Claim in Genesis 1-11 Ultimately Undermines All of Christianity

35 Which Authority? man God author of science author of Scripture finite unbounded changing unchanging fallen holy deceitful truthful willingly ignorant all-knowing

36 ...I am a young-age creationist because of Who I believe God to be I am a young-age creationist I am a young-age creationist Although I think the fossil record compatible with young-age creationism... and there I must stand.

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