2 Agenda Overall way forward Priorities and Constraints Compartments Issues to avoidPriorities and ConstraintsOld businessTrailer Fund: $1,093.24Trailer dimensionsPatrol methodEquipmentDimensionsCompartmentsWoodAluminumShelvesWirePlacement within trailerVoting
3 Concept for trailerStart with patrol shelving reflective of patrol method of Scouting2. Evaluate way ahead and proceed on plans for stowage of other equipment
4 Intentionally avoiding lengthy discussions of: Troop equipmentTablesChuck boxesWater tankFire pitThese (and other) are all discussions worth having; only trying to focus on patrol equipment storage and transport right now.
5 Old Business…Trailer - Jeff is looking into aluminum to keep shelving lightweight.Ray to contact Jim Young to observe T-2880 trailer (a positive example?). [No]Jeff - cost out plans; share by 11 June.20 minute presentation/discussion 14 June.Present [committee] options/adjustments 15 June, with execution timeline
6 Trailer Fund Treasurer Alison - Reported funds in the account Troop Fund: $2,359.86Scout Funds: $1,516.49Trailer Fund: $1,093.24Mulch Profits: $2,425.82Sub Total: $4,969.59Grand Total: $7,395.41Trailer fund – Keep in trailer (& equipment?)Discussed % of mulch to Boys? Previous years had 100% to boys; Others = most to trailer; more recently, a split.
7 Priorities and Constraints Trailer dimensions11’132”5’8”68” tall90”
8 Priorities and Constraints Patrol Method Patrols should each maintain their own equipment and will if identical sets are assigned to each patrol- VS -Equipment is not identical and we regularly pull equipment from several sets to adequately outfit the unit for campingPlan: inventory and assign equipment; identify items to standardize and deliberately replace non-standard and broken itemsOption: store selected equipment (especially lanterns) together to allow easy access and access to multiple items and use non operational equipment for spare partsGreg: I fully agree with them having that responsibility placed on them and the stoves are fine in each patrol box, but I don't think one piece of equipment, i.e. the lanterns, is going to be detrimental to the patrol method. However I do feel it is an exercise in frustration when setting up in the dark, which accounts for a great deal of our camping. Pulling out boxes to find them and finding them constantly damaged in transit. Then more frustration occurs because time needs to be taking repairing them in an already dark environment. More time lost to setting up effectively. That's why I feel they should be easily accessible for arrival in camp and stored in compartments that limits the bouncing around. That has been one of my biggest frustrations when arriving in camp in the dark. Hunting for a lantern in good working shape, and many times having to replace mantles on them by flashlight before we could even start setting up. The compartments could have a piece of foam cushion at the bottom to help lessen the jarring as well. We could even assign a compartment to a patrol. In the past the patrols took care of all of their gear including stoves very effectively, but never the lanterns. And the patrols worked very independently and successfully. The lantern wouldn't have changed a thing in the patrol method. I do think we need spare stoves as well; that are kept on the shelf, as these things are notorious for malfuntioning parts such as regulators and gas feed lines. Both repairs beyond the patrol's ability. The 'Go Green' Camporee was a perfect example of these problems. I had to repair two lanterns before ever getting to setting up my gear. And then I had to go through at least 3 stoves piecing together parts to get one working for the leaders. Gas lines and regulators were the primary culprit, hence the need for spares on a shelf. __________________________________Ray: Making the patrol method a troop priority means responsibility for equipment should be placed on patrols. It logically follows that we need a way to segregate the equipment. We could simply label equipment with patrol names, but it will be most effective to have separate (limited-access?) storage areas for each patrol.I submit we are making it a patrol responsibility to take and replace their assigned gear from their assigned storage areas. This way, hunting for gear becomes an object lesson on proper accountability and storage. As long as we design the space to accommodate them, there is no reason a patrol can’t learn to store their own lanterns properly for transport.Stoves, lanterns, stalks, and other equipment should be distributed between and maintained by the patrols as much as possible. Water cans and propane tanks could be maintained as troop equipment because they are a shared supply rather than a piece of equipment requiring maintenance and upkeep.I intend to standardize and modernize the patrol equipment as quickly as possible. We need shelves immediately though to secure and store equipment for proper transport to and from upcoming events.Finally, let’s face it: a storage plan based on assigned patrol equipment wouldn’t be impossible to adapt. Oh well, it didn’t work… So the penguin patrol space becomes the lantern shelf, and the huskies’ space becomes the stove shelf, etc.Greg: Two reasons for not storing the lanterns in the patrol boxes and storing them on a shelf in compartments with easy access:75% of the time we arrive to a campsite with darkness falling or already upon us. Having quick access to the lanterns, stalks, and propane tanks would make everyone’s life easier as they could be the first items taken out and set up in the campsites to make setting up the rest of the gear easier. Having to hunt for them in boxes is far more difficult and delays getting the sites setup effectively. Propane stalks could be stored in an upright 2 foot long section of 6” PVC pipe attached to the corner of a rackThe lanterns are by far the most fragile items we carry and the mantles probably wouldn’t survive if the lantern is stored sideways in a box. Thus we would have to repair them when arriving on site just to get light going. More frustration here.
9 Priorities and Constraints Equipment Dimensions Patrol Equipment Shelves must accommodate current Patrol Boxes (minimum 22” deep)Lanterns must store upright in case (minimum 12.9” tall)Propane Stalks (minimum 24” wide)Must accommodate overall equipment list
12 3. Prefab Aluminum Size: 90x12x48=51840cuin=30cuft Capacity: 100 lbs. per shelfWeight: 150 lbPrice: $331.13Ship: $26.17Total: $357.3011’5’8”68” tallQUALITY ALUMINUM ENCLOSED TRAILER SHELVING Organize the inside of your enclosed trailer quickly and easily with our custom sized aluminum shelving system. Your trailer can become the safe, clean, organized space it should be. Shelves are one of the most basic and affordable forms of storage available.You choose where you want to mount the shelving in your trailer. Mount it in line with the trailer side walls or across the front of your vehicle. The shelves can be combined to create a consolidated, multipurpose, space-efficient work area. Frames are fabricated from 1/8th structural heavy duty aluminum. Assorted lengths available. Wood inserts available, 1/4", 1/2" or 3/4" heavy duty plywood. Most people supply their own due to shipping costs. Call us and we can figure out which way to go to help you. Need something special, call us!Low costHeavy dutyLight weightNon corrodingEasy installationEnvironmentally friendlyAssorted Sizes AvailableSINGLE SHELF / WORK BENCH:100 lbs. capacity per shelf12" deep shelfMade of 1/8" wall structual aluminumAvailable from 2' to 8'.5" in length.Reversible shelf to provide a flatwork benchShelf has a 1 ¼” lip on three sides or mount the shelf upside down to provide a flat working surface.DOUBLE & TRIPLE SHELVES :300 lbs. capacityShelves have a 1 ¼” lip on three sides or mount the top shelf upside down to provide a flat working surface.All shelves are reversible.
19 11’5’8”doorNote:Recommended shelving 2’ above floor, then 2’ above that and 2’ above that
20 Patrol Box Patrol Box Preparation: If assigned a patrol box after a camp it is extremely important that it be returned fully cleaned and re-stocked. The patrol boxes will not be re-opened until we are on our next camp so if it is not properly prepared then we don't eat!! It is important that all items are cleaned, disinfected and properly placed in the patrol box. It should be re-stocked EXACTLY as specified in this web page - no items missing and no extra items. If something is missing then REPLACE IT. If it is almost empty then replace it and throw out the almost empty version - remember, no extra items and nothing missing.If you don't have what is specified at home PLEASE go to the store and purchase it - do not substitute! The items included in this list fit perfectly in the box and provide everything needed by the Scouts on a camp. Different size items (like wider cling wrap) don't fit properly resulting in broken items and open boxes during the camp. If you can't find an item contact the Quartermaster and he will assist. If there are extra items in your box (that most likely came from another patrol box) then clean them, put them in a clean bag and give them to the Quartermaster separately when you return the patrol box- DO NOT PUT EXTRA ITEMS IN YOUR BOX WHEN YOU RETURN IT.Patrol box cleanup:Remove all pots and pans from cooking kit, thoroughly wash and disinfect w/bleach or other, even if they appear clean!Remove towels from box, wash and dry.Wash and sanitize all utensils and cutting board.Remove all other items and replace any used Brillo pads and dirty sponges.Clean out the inside, outside, and lid of the Patrol Box. Use dish detergent or bleach and rinse out after cleaned.Re-stocking the patrol box:The following is a list of items that should be in the patrol box (click here to download list):Fire extinguisher (Troop provided)Antibacterial hand gel (4 oz, 118ml)Steramine tablets (Troop provided, request from QuarterMaster)Bottle washing detergent (375ml)2 Scotch-brite sponges (in Ziploc bag).4 Brillo Pads (in Ziploc bag)4 cloth dish towels (in Ziploc bag)Flash brand antibacterial wipes (56 wipe pack)1 roll of paper towelsCling Film/ Saran wrap (370mm x 40 meter)Kitchen/Aluminum Foil (370mm x 40 meter)Sandwich bags, press and seal - box of 60.1 roll of garbage bags (large)Pitcher w/lidBottle vegatable oil (1L max)Pot/pan kit (see below for proper assembly and contents)Utensil box with utensils and lighter (see below for contents)Cutting BoardSpices:Bay Leaves (39g)Garlic powder (39g)Garlic salt (39g)Salt (500g)Pepper (39g)Chili powder (39g)Season all (500g)Italian or mixed herbs (39g)Cinnamon (39g)
21 Can openerSoup ladleSpatulaSlotted large spoonLarge serving spoonSmall spoonTurning forkSpaghetti serverServing tongs10. Vegatable peeler11. Serrated knife12. Small paring knife13. Medium slicing knife14. Large serving knife15. Whisk16. 2 BSA pot pliers17. 6 Clothespins in Ziploc bag18. 2 Long Lite disposable lighters
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