1 MCCEE, CaRMS, & Interviews Jocelin Desjardins McLeod Getting back to CanadaMCCEE, CaRMS, & InterviewsJocelin Desjardins McLeod
2 Should I plan to go back?Plan to go back if you are thinking about it at all. (Easy to change your mind.)If you have time, write your USMLEs.Decide on your specialty early.Take all opportunities to do electives/GP/PRINT in Canada and the States.Make sure your application is NOT one-dimensional.
3 Essential Steps PCRC (do this while at home for electives if you can) Medical Council of Canada EE (sign up as soon as you can)Do the EE around 4th year Barrier! (for us, the week before)Get familiar with the CaRMS siteContact HealthForce OntarioForget about the QE1 and QE2 for now
4 Studying for the EE Start in 4th year (end of 3rd) Come up with a study planHelpful resources:Toronto Notes, USMLE First Aid CK Step 2, Kaplan USMLE Step 2 Videos, USMLE World, Canada Q bank (?). Don’t use too many!Self administered exam on MCC siteQuestion banks for last 4-6 weeksDon’t study all the time!
5 Tips for the ExamGP focus (read that section of Toronto Notes), Question banks ++Bring ear plugsTesting Centre is in Sydney CBD175 questions, 25 don’t countYou can take breaks if you want (but make sure to plan this).
6 Scores of USYD Grads 2010:291309313340342346347357415418437475Family Interview
7 The only websites you need PCRCMedical Council of CanadaCaRMSOntario Family MedicineUSMLE WorldIllegal Kaplan Step 2 videosCanada Q bank
8 CaRMS applications Start early (pre-register in August) Organize references early (aim for 4-5 references)Keep resume (long and short) up to dateLook at past personal statement questions and think about what you might talk aboutFollow their timeline. Call them if you have questions.
9 CaRMS InterviewsPrograms start contacting applicants in December (over a month)Practice interview questions (especially for Family medicine)- similar questions every year!Have examples ready for each scenarioGo to the ‘Interview day’ in Toronto in DecemberGo to as many interviews as you can (any programs you plan to rank).
15 Return of Service IMG spots in most provinces have ROS Manitoba – no ROS except in Remote2nd round- chance to have no ROSROS contracts changing each year- now most specialties only require you to be working outside of major cities (ex. Toronto or Ottawa)PRP for most programs are mandatorySubspecialties and Fellowships
16 USYD GRADS who MATCHed 2010 class: ~30-35 Canadians ~15 people wrote the EE last year~10 applied to CaRMS, 1 to US & Canada7 people interviewed in Canada3 matched to Family in first iteration1 matched to radiology in US match3 going into the 2nd iteration and post match
17 Family Medicine - Toronto MCCEE Score- 418, No USMLE examsExperience in Canada (24 weeks in total: 8 GP in BC, 4 GP in Toronto, 4 GP in Collingwood, 4 peds in Windsor, 4 Cardio in Sudbury), Ambulance ride-outsRural Oz experience in Lismore and with the Royal Flying Doctors2 Canadian GP references, 1 Nepean, 3 peds consultants for my peds programs- 2 Canadian, 1 OzHonours Research, awarded a Medical Deans Grant, no papers publishedFinal year Usyd Prizes: Obs and Gyne awards, Critical Care award, Anesthesia Prize
18 Family Medicine - Toronto NAMSA Exec, UniMed, Surf LivesavingVarious memberships to clubs, Med ReviewMy years prior to med school: McGill academic all Canadian, Varsity swimming, Varsity Team Captain, Olympic Trials, swim coaching, lifeguarding and supervisingMatched to Greater Toronto Family (1st choice of 17), applied to a few peds programs, but mostly family.Interviewed at most, but didn't get MAC peds and didn’t go to Western peds)
19 Family Medicine - Hamilton MCCEE score-346, no USMLE examsElectives/PRINT/GP in Canada- 24 weeks total.References: All Canadian; one psych, one GP and one Emerg.Honours Project –clinical research, no papers published, Nepean Research DayMasters research pre-med (included research grants, conference awards, poster presentations etc.)NAMSA member, exec, GPSN member, Medsoc memberMatched to: Hamilton Family Medicine, McMaster (3rd choice out of 7 applied to)Interviewed for Ontario family, but did not go to Memorial Family
20 Family Medicine – Manitoba Remote MCCEE score 415, no USMLE examsElectives: 4 weeks FM in BC victoria youth clinic, 4 week FM BC rural GP clinic and 4 weeks internal at Toronto general - 12 weeks total, did PRINT and GP in OzReferences: consultant of internal med at Toronto general, 2x GP in BC and renal consultant at concord hospitalConcord mentoring program, bit of research prior to med school but no published papersApplied for only FM, all positions in Ontario, Manitoba, Saskatchewan, and Newfoundland (18 programs)Interviewed in Ontario and Manitoba. Did not get Saskatchewan (ACLS?) and did not travel to Memorial.
21 Internal Medicine- Halifax St George University, GrenadaMCCEE score 413, USMLE step 1 and 2 CS and CK completed & did wellElectives = 4 weeks neuro at NOSM, 4 weeks FM in Sask, 6 weeks psych in BC, others in the USHad 7 interviews in US for neurology (applied to alot of neuro programs there)Applied for a variety of programs in Canada (psych, derm, IM, FM, urology, opth, neuro, neurosurg)- Got interviews for all except neurosur: IM for toronto, dalhousie, FM for ontario, manitoba, newfoundland, sach, neuro for northern ont, derm toronto, psych torontoDifferent personal letters for each program: did them through a company on internet that edits and makes recommendations - very expensive but may have been good++ Canadian referencesVolunteer work in grenada, no research or publications, some lab work prior to medFriends from SGU got derm ottawa, psych toronto, 2x ER toronto, radiation onc mcmaster, 2xFM toronto, radiology toronto, fm alberta
22 No round OnePerson 1: EE score 357, Unimed,Teaching English overseas, 16 weeks of Canadian ‘electives’ (PRINT and GP but not electives), Canadian referencesPerson 2: EE score 340, NAMSA exec, Unimed, some research prior to med, 16 weeks of Canadian electives (no PRINT), Canadian references
23 US MATCH- Radiology MCCEE 475 USMLE 1 and 2- 99th percentile Radiology electives in US (not Canada)Had ~18 interviews across the US
24 Tips Match always favours the applicant EE score isn’t everything, but it helpsExperience in Canada is ++ importantCanadian referencesKeep resume up to date (long and short)Planning- Family Medicine vs. Specialty
25 Contacts Jocelin Desjardins McLeod Malcolm McLeod email@example.com Ps. Fly Air Canada