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1 TGs Process, November Date: 2007-11-12 Authors: November 2007
September 2007 doc.: IEEE /2812r1 November 2007 TGs Process, November Date: Authors: Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

2 September 2007 doc.: IEEE /2812r1 November 2007 Abstract Slides for discussion of the IEEE TGs process in getting through Working Group Letter Ballot and Beyond. Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

3 Mesh Networking Task Group Process
November 2007 Mesh Networking Task Group Process TGs Motto: “Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add but when there is nothing left to take away.” Donald E. Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

4 Process of Getting to Letter Ballot and Beyond
September 2007 doc.: IEEE /2812r1 November 2007 Process of Getting to Letter Ballot and Beyond Completed Steps | Future Steps Adoption of PAR and 5 Criteria Technical Presentations and Discussions Specify Any Additional Requirements, Comparison Criteria, or Other Documents Call For Proposals Presentation of Proposals Select from Submitted Complete Proposals to Produce a Draft Refine Draft 1st Letter Ballot – November 2006 – Fails Revise Draft – Resolve comments 2nd Letter Ballot – November 2007 Recirculation Sponsor Ballot – September 2008(?) Final WG/EC Approval IEEE SB REVCOM Approval Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

5 Process for Refining Draft
November 2007 Process for Refining Draft Letter Ballot on Draft D1.0 authorized one year ago at November 2006 meeting. Approval rate on Letter Ballot #93 was 48.12% so it failed. (This is not unusual. Most Drafts fail the first Letter Ballot and some fail two or three times before they pass.) 5,703 comments received (including 192 on apparently invalid ballots). 10 more comments added at January meeting. Task group voted to proceed based on Draft D1.0 and to consider all comments for resolution. Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

6 Advantages/Disadvantages of Passing/Failing Letter Ballot
September 2007 doc.: IEEE /2812r1 November 2007 Advantages/Disadvantages of Passing/Failing Letter Ballot Advantages Disadvantages Passing Letter Ballot You enter “re-circulation” so subsequent votes are 15 days and voters can only add comment each time on parts of the Draft that have changed or been affected by changes. The voting pool is fixed and no new people joining can vote. You must resolve every comment by a ¾ vote. You can only change the draft through the resolution of comments. Failing Letter Ballot You are free to make whatever changes in the Draft the task group wants. Your next Letter Ballot must be at least 30 days and will include everyone in the Working Group at that time and they can comment on any part of the Draft. Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

7 3 Cycles of Comments and Resolution
November 2007 3 Cycles of Comments and Resolution Call for Informal Comments Comment Resolution Comment Resolution WG Letter Ballot / Recirculation Sponsor Ballot / Recirculation Comment Resolution Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

8 Letter Ballot Comment Resolution
September 2007 doc.: IEEE /2812r1 November 2007 Letter Ballot Comment Resolution Total Editorial Technical Resolved Unresolved Nov-06 5,713 2,841 2,872 Jan-07 3,001 2,712 2,195 646 806 2,066 Mar-07 4,296 1,417 2,468 7 1,828 1,410 May-07 4,818 895 2,474 2,344 Jul-07 5,230 483 2,756 Sep-07 5,468 245 2,994 Last line is estimate through Thursday of Waikoloa Meeting. Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

9 Letter Ballot Comment Resolution
September 2007 doc.: IEEE /2812r1 November 2007 Letter Ballot Comment Resolution Total Editorial Technical Resolved Unresolved Nov-06 0.0% 100.0% Jan-07 52.5% 47.5% 77.3% 22.7% 28.1% 71.9% Mar-07 75.2% 24.8% 99.7% 0.3% 56.5% 43.5% May-07 84.3% 15.7% 72.4% 27.6% Jul-07 91.5% 8.5% 85.1% 14.9% Sep-07 95.7% 4.3% 92.4% 7.6% Last line is estimate through Thursday of Waikoloa Meeting. Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

10 November 2007 In tens of comments Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

11 Possible Multi-Meeting Process Flow
September 2007 doc.: IEEE /2812r1 November 2007 Possible Multi-Meeting Process Flow July Meeting San Franisco, California Sep. Meeting Waikoloa, Hawai‘i Nov. Meeting Atlanta, Georgia Līhu‘e Ad Hoc Meeting Complete Comment Resolution? Comment Resolution Comment Resolution Comment Resolution and Agenda Telecons Comment Resolution and Agenda Telecons Drafts D1.06+ Draft D1.07+ Letter Ballot on Draft D2.0? Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

12 Schedule Projected at Waikoloa, Hawai‘i (September) Meeting
doc.: IEEE /2812r1 November 2007 Schedule Projected at Waikoloa, Hawai‘i (September) Meeting September 2007 (Waikoloa, Hawai‘i) Comment Resolution November 2007 (Atlanta, Georgia) Comment Resolution , Second Letter Ballot authorized January 2008 (Taipei, Taiwan) March 2008 (Orlando, Florida) First Letter Ballot Re-circulation May 2008 (Jacksonville, Florida) Second Letter Ballot Re-circulation July 2008 (Denver, Colorado) Third Letter Ballot Re-circulation September 2008 (?) Sponsor Ballot Authorization by WG November 2008 (Dallas, Texas) Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

13 January – Tapei Meeting Schedule
September 2007 doc.: IEEE /2812r1 November 2007 January – Tapei Meeting Schedule Hours based on the 16 hours (8 regular sessions) we may get (compared with 13.5 hours in Atlanta): 1 hr Opening Session: Administrivia, Minutes, Agenda, Process 14 hr Comment Resolution 1 hr Closing Session: Process, Teleconferences /Ad Hocs Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

14 TGs Activity Between Meetings
September 2007 doc.: IEEE /2812r1 November 2007 TGs Activity Between Meetings TGs Activities Between Meetings Requiring Notice: One or more face to face ad hoc meetings, requires 30 days notice (P&P clause 3.6.2). One or multiple Teleconferences, requires 10 days notice, not more often than weekly (P&P clause 3.6.3). Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

15 TGs Activity Between Meetings, Previously Decided
September 2007 doc.: IEEE /2812r1 November 2007 TGs Activity Between Meetings, Previously Decided Teleconferences 5pm Wednesdays Eastern US time for up to 1 ½ hours: 21 November - ? Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

16 TGs Activity Between Meetings, Previously Scheduled
September 2007 doc.: IEEE /2812r1 November 2007 TGs Activity Between Meetings, Previously Scheduled Ad hoc in Marlboro, Massachusetts, to work on comment resolution, was CANCELLED. An Ad Hoc between Atlanta and Taipei makes little sense if we go to Letter Ballot. It is also a holiday season. Earliest ad hoc date that could be approved in Atlanta: the week of 10 December. An ad hoc could be scheduled the week of 7 January. (The Taipei Interim start Monday 12 November.) Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

17 References Earlier TGs Process Submissions
November 2007 References Earlier TGs Process Submissions September 2007, 11-07/2398r1, Waikoloa, Hawai‘i September 2007, 11-07/2408r0, Līhu‘e, Kaua‘i, Hawai‘i July 2007, 11-07/2142r1, San Francisco, California May 2007, 11-07/677r3, Montreal, Quebec March 2007, 11-07/380r1, Orlando, Florida February 2007, 11-07/235r1, Hillsboro, Oregon (ad hoc) January 2007, 11-07/0059r2, London, England November 2006, 11-06/1753r2, Dallas Texas September 2006, 11-06/1386, Melbourne, Australia July 2006, 11-06/1028r2, San Diego, California June 2006, 11-06/840r2, Hillsboro, Oregon (ad hoc) 11-06/328r0, 11-06/329r3, Confirmed Proposal Draft P802.11s D1.07 11-07/23r50, LB#93 Comments Resolution Spreadsheet Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola


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