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1 Exceptional Advising for Exceptional Students

2 California State University Long Beach, College of Engineering  AVEP is an upper division only program  Everyone is a transfer student  Average transfer student is taking 4 yrs to complete a BS degree in engineering after they transfer  Engineering “core curriculum” degeneration since the mid 1990s  Difficulty re-establishing  Perception among students that it is easier to transfer into a “good” engineering program than it is to start out at a 4-year campus.

3 California State University Long Beach, College of Engineering  Generally 2% of the American population are some type of “Engineer”  While people with engineering degrees can, and do, work in many other career fields, a BS engineering degree is required to work in a job titled ‘engineer’  PE licensure requirements moving toward MS degree for license  On four-year university campuses, generally 5% or less of the student body are engineering majors  “Boutique” engineering majors are popular ▪ Chemical, systems, bio-medical, agricultural, nuclear, etc.  Program requirements vary  “High Unit Major” exempted from legislation  Programs are trying to standardize, but standards are not being implemented right now 11/17/2011 3

4 California State University Long Beach, College of Engineering  Lack of understanding of engineering  Broad, diverse, career field  Many engineering degreed people work under other titles ▪ Half of COEs of Fortune 500 companies  Rapidly changing technology and technical vocabulary  Some people call themselves “engineer” without the degree ▪ Professional licensing requires that only people with the degree may hold jobs titled ”engineer”  No single uniform controlling body ▪ Specific technical disciplines supported by professional societies ▪ National Academy of Engineering ▪ ABET accredits programs, state licensing boards 11/17/2011 4

5 California State University Long Beach, College of Engineering  No profession unleashes the spirit of innovation like engineering. From research to real-world applications, engineers constantly discover how to improve our lives by creating bold new solutions that connect science to life in unexpected, forward-thinking ways. Few have such a direct and positive effect on people’s everyday lives. We are counting on engineers and their imaginations to help us meet the needs of the 21 st century.

6 California State University Long Beach, College of Engineering  “High unit major” with tightly prescribed requirements  Exempt from SB 1440  What the GE requirements call “Category B: Quantitative Reasoning”, Engineers call “prerequisites for the major” ▪ Must be Calculus thru Differential Equations  Retention and branding efforts at 4-yr campuses have driven variation in programs  “Common transfer curriculum” activities are underway  “Flagship campuses” admit few transfer students  “120 unit major” initiative from CSU Chancellor's office are underway to reduce total units required for degree  Engineering degrees are “standardized” by ABET at 128 units

7 California State University Long Beach, College of Engineering  The Big Four  Civil, Computer, Electrical, and Mechanical Engineering  ~ 67% of all bachelor’s degrees awarded  The Medium Four  Aerospace, Biomedical, Chemical, and Industrial/Manufacturing Engineering  ~ 20% of all Bachelor's degrees awarded  The remainder of the engineering majors make up the balance of the degrees awarded  Agricultural, aeronautical, architectural, systems, mining, construction management, etc.

8 California State University Long Beach, College of Engineering  Driving Application ( unusual, but highly motivated )  You just have to build one particular kind of device ▪ Rockets, cell phones, prosthetics, houses – you name it ▪ What technology makes that device? ▪ That is your discipline  Driving Competency (unusual)  Interest in one area of technology ▪ Composites, computers, traffic management, etc. ▪ Which department teaches these classes? ▪ May be different at different schools  Visceral Understanding ( usual )  Do you like material in a particular class?  Drawn to classes in science or math?  Like a challenge?  Curious to know how things work?

9 California State University Long Beach, College of Engineering  “You have to love math”  You have to be able to do math, pass differential equations  Math is a tool, the language used to discuss and describe observations of the physical world  “Engineers are introverted geeks”  Engineering students care deeply about improving the world and are willing to study hard to do it  “I don’t want to spend all day in front of a computer”  Then don’t. An engineering education is versatile and creative. Do what you want to with it. Most engineers don’t spend all day in front of a computer.  Engineers must be able t collaborate.  “I won’t have any friends”  Engineering is a creative, engaging, and highly collaborative field. The current emphasis on collaborative learning ensures friendships are available for the making.  Why would you lose the friends you have now?  “I want to help people directly”  The problem-solving and analytical skills employed by engineers improve people’s lives, both directly and indirectly. Engineering skills have a multiplier effect.  “It is so hard”  The courses build on themself progressively. The progression of classes is tightly prescribed to be certain students develop the necessary skills before progressing to more complex work. Any skill is difficult if people are unprepared. 11/17/2011 9

10 California State University Long Beach, College of Engineering  ABET accreditation requirements ensure accredited engineering programs meet the same outcomes, not offer the same courses.  Requirements vary – check with your intended department  50% attrition of declared engineering students between freshman and junior years (calculus 1 to differential equations)  COE’s do not want to consider students who have not survived prerequisite classes.  Take these classes at your community college to prove you are ready for more rigorous engineering course work  Junior-level engineering coursework further develops content from physics  Take the calculus-based physics and chemistry classes at your community college so you are prepared for Junior-level engineering coursework  Junior year engineering coursework is tightly prescribed, generally at 15 to 18 units (full time load) per semester  There is no room in the schedule for lower-division General Education classes  Take lower division GE’s at you community college, labs with physics classes  Specific transfer requirements may or may not lead to an AA or “GE Certification” 11/17/2011 10

11 California State University Long Beach, College of Engineering  “Golden 4” GEs required  Freshman Comp, Speech Com, Critical Thinking, Constitution w/ CA component  There is a difference between “getting accepted into the university” and being accepted into an engineering major  Students who do not meet the requirements for junior level work in engineering can still get accepted into the University – without being declared an engineering major  Undeclared majors have very low priority getting classes  Taking classes out of sequence also has low priority  Students need to satisfy GWAR  Upper division writing assessment 11/17/2011 11

12 California State University Long Beach, College of Engineering  Critical Thinking  Some programs waive the requirement for engineering majors (CSU Long Beach currently DOES NOT waive the requirement)  Symbolic Logic is generally not accepted as a lower division GE for engineering majors, unless “GE certified”  Intro to Engineering  Content and credits given vary by program, some include “unique engineering content”  Should be taken at the CC, if offered  Economics  ABET requires Engineering Economics in the upper division, some programs require micro- or macro- in the lower division  3-D CAD, Circuits, Matlab, Statics, Dynamics, Materials Science  Engineering content not offered at many Community Colleges  If they are available, check with program to be certain they will count 11/17/2011 12

13 California State University Long Beach, College of Engineering  Get on track in Calculus and Physics  Work hard to keep up your GPA  The semester students are in Calculus 2, choose one primary program whose specific transfer requirements they intend to meet  Get advice from that program at that university  There is still at least one semester to make up required content

14 California State University Long Beach, College of Engineering  Applicants meeting all of the following requirements will be ranked on transfer GPA and offered admission on a space available basis:  Have a minimum overall college GPA of 2.50 or higher in all transferable college course work attempted.  Complete a minimum of 60 transferable semester units by the end of prior Spring term for Fall entrance. ▪ “golden 4” GEs: Freshman comp, Speech com, Critical thinking, Constitution ▪ “prerequisite” math: Calc 1-3 ▪ Physic 1 & 2  Rank in the pool will be determined by the quality of applicant pool. ▪ Quality will vary from year to year. California State University Long Beach, College of Engineering 14 11/17/2011 14

15 California State University Long Beach, College of Engineering  27 units in courses approved to meet CSU General Education (GE) requirements  9 semester units of category A (written and oral communications, and critical thinking-3units in each area)  9 semester units of category C (art-3 units, literature, philosophy, foreign language-6 units, no more than 3 units in each area)  6 semester units of category D (US history-3units, constitution & American ideals (with CA component)-3units)  3 semester units of category E (self-integration) California State University Long Beach, College of Engineering 15

16 California State University Long Beach, College of Engineering  25 units of mathematics and science with a minimum grade of "C" (Category B – Quantitative Reasoning)  12 semester units of mathematics (Calculus I, II, III) MATH 122, 123, 224  8 semester units of calculus based physics with lab (Physics I & II) PHYS 151 and 152 (or circuits instead of physics 2)  5 semester units of general chemistry with lab (CHEM 111A)  9 units of engineering fundamentals with a minimum grade of "C”  3 semester units of computer methods (MAE 205 or equivalent) ▪ MatLab or Structured programming language  3 semester units of engineering design graphics (MAE 172) ▪ 3-D solid modeling (Solidworks preferred)  3 semester units of calculus based statics (CE 205)  27 units in courses approved to meet CSU General Education (GE) requirements (including “golden 4”) 16

17 MAE 371 (3) MAE 205 (2) MAE 305 (3) MAE 322 (3) MAE 272 (2) MAE 172 (3) MAE 376 (3) MAE 375 (4) MAE 373 (3) MAE 361 (1) MAE 337 (2) MAE 330 (3) MAE 336 (3) MAE 490 (3) MAE 476 (4) MAE 431 (3) MAE 472 (3) MAE 409 (3) MAE 459 (1) MAE 471 (3) MAE 300 (2) CSU Long Beach, Antelope Valley Engineering Programs Mechanical Engineering Course Flowchart Community College General Education Preparation Community College Engineering Preparation GE capstone (3) GE Capstone (3) Statics (3) CE 336 (1) CE 335 (3) 3-D Computer Drafting MatLab Programming Math (GE Area B4) Chemistry with Lab Physics II E&M or Electric Circuits W/Lab Physics II E&M or Electric Circuits W/Lab Physics I Mechanics Physics I Mechanics Science (GE Area B1) Calculus I Calculus II Calculus III Differential Equations Linear Algebra CE 406 (3) Math 370A (3) Category A *3 semester units written communication *3 semester units oral communications *3 semester units critical thinking Category C *3 semester units art *6 semester units literature, philosophy, foreign language Category D *3 semester units US history *3 semester units Constitution & American ideals Category E *3 semester units of Introduction to Engineering or other self- integration Admission Requirements GWAR Senior Standing Materials Science

18 California State University Long Beach, College of Engineering  23 units of mathematics and science with a minimum grade of "C" (Category B GEs)  12 semester units of mathematics (Calculus I, II, III) MATH 122, 123, 224  11 semester units of calculus based physics (Physics I, II,III) PHYS 151, 152, 254  10 units of engineering fundamentals with a minimum grade of "C”  3 semester units of computer methods using MAT Lab (EE 202 or equivalent)  3 semester units of computer programming in C++ (CECS 100 or equivalent)  4 semester units of calculus based circuits course with lab (EE 211/211L)  27 units in courses approved to meet CSU General Education (GE) requirements (including “golden 4”) California State University Long Beach, College of Engineering 18

19 EE 201 (4) EE 202 (3) EE 400D (2) EE 211 & 211L (4) EE 346 (3) EE 382 (3) EE 370 (3) MAE 330 (3) EE 310 (3) EE 380 (3) EE 301 (3) EE 350 (3) EE 434 (3) EE 470 (3) EE 405 (3) EE 430 (3) EE 430L (1) EE 430 (3) EE 430L (1) EE 471 (3) EE 360/460 (3) EE 386 (3) CSU Long Beach, Antelope Valley Engineering Programs Electrical Engineering Course Flowchart Community College General Education Preparation Community College Engineering Preparation GE capstone (3) GE Capstone (3) EE 330 (4) Computer Programming Structured language Computer Programming Structured language Computer Methods using MatLab Math (GE Area B4) Physics III Modern Physics no Lab Physics II E&M Physics II E&M Physics I Mechanics Physics I Mechanics Science (GE Area B1) Calculus I Calculus II Calculus III Differential Equations Linear Algebra Math 370A (3) Category A *3 semester units written communication *3 semester units oral communications *3 semester units critical thinking Category C *3 semester units art *6 semester units literature, philosophy, foreign language Category D *3 semester units US history *3 semester units Constitution & American ideals Category E *3 semester units of Introduction to Engineering or other self- integration Admission Requirements GWAR Senior Standing Electric Circuits And Lab Electric Circuits And Lab Digital Logic and Lab EE 370L (1) EE 486 (3)

20 California State University Long Beach, College of Engineering  October 1 – Applications window opens  May 1 – Application deadline  May/ June– Confirm acceptance  August – 1 Registration and academic orientation  August 22 –Cohort workshop  August 26 – First day of fall semester classes California State University Long Beach, College of Engineering20 Application Time Line

21 California State University Long Beach, College of Engineering  Applications accepted via www.csumentor.eduwww.csumentor.edu  Closing 15 May  Create CSUMentor account  Once Registered – select CSU, Long Beach campus  Next, select “Special Sessions Degree Program”  Choose either Electrical or Mechanical Engineering California State University Long Beach, College of Engineering21 Applications

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23 California State University Long Beach, College of Engineering  Dr. Kenneth Santarelli - Program Director (661) 723-6429, ext. 104 ken.santarelli@csulb.edu ken.santarelli@csulb.edu  Dr. J S. Shelley - Professor, Mechanical Engineering (661) 723-6429, ext. 105 j.shelley@csulb.eduj.shelley@csulb.edu  Dr. Ahmad Kassai - Prof, Electrical Engineering (661) 723-6429, ext. 122  a.kassai@csulb.edu a.kassai@csulb.edu  Ashley Heard - Office Coordinator (661) 723-6429, ext. 103 ashley.heard@csulb.eduashley.heard@csulb.edu  Jason Deutschman – Coordinator of Academic Advising ( 562) 985-1800 jason.deutschman@csulb.edu

24 California State University Long Beach, College of Engineering

25  Engineering professional societies  Discipline specific: ASME, ASCE, IEEE  AIAA, INCOSE – etc.  Application specific: explosives engineers, test pilots society, etc.  Special interest: SWE, NSBE, SHPE, etc.  General inspirational Websites:  Engineering.com, https://www.engineeringforchange.org/home / https://www.engineeringforchange.org/home  www.discoverengineering.org/, ASEE.org www.discoverengineering.org/  Licensing:  NCEES

26 California State University Long Beach, College of Engineering Turning ideas into reality Designed to work wonders Life takes Engineering The power to DO! Bolder by design Who is behind the Next Big Thing? You! Because dreams need doing


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