1. Conflicts of Interest
Section 8
Public Housing

2. Conflicts of Interest in:
Discussion Topics
Conflicts of Interest in:
Section 8
Public Housing
ALERT: Will discuss applicable Federal law, Federal regulations and Federal contract provisions...State and local conflict provisions not subject of this presentation

3. Conflicts of Interest
Procurement
Non-procurement
Two Types

4. Procurement Conflicts of Interest
Procurement of:
Property
Service
Governed by:
24 CFR 85.36(b)(3)
and HUD handbook REV-2 (3/07)
This presentation will cover non-procurement conflicts only….with two exceptions!

5. Procurement Conflicts of Interest
24 CFR 85.36(b)(3):
No PHA employee, officer or agent shall participate in the selection, award or administration of a contract supported by Federal funds if:
The employee, officer or agent,
Any member of his immediate family
His partner;
Or an organization which employs him
Has a financial interest or other interest in the firm selected for the award.

6. Non-Procurement Conflicts
What Regulations and Rules apply?
Section 8
24 CFR
Public Housing
Section 19 of Part A of CACC
ALERT: Check State and Local laws and regs!

7. Section 8 Conflicts
24 CFR
PHA, its contractors and subs may not enter into a contract in connection with tenant-based programs if the following persons have an interest in the contract:

8. Section 8 Conflicts
Present or former members or officers of a PHA (except participant commissioners).
Employees of a PHA or contractors, subs or agents of a PHA who:
formulate policy or who influence decisions regarding the programs.

9. Section 8 Conflicts
Public Officials, members of governmental bodies, or state or local legislators, who:
Exercise functions or responsibilities regarding programs.
Member of U.S. Congress.
ALERT: Reg applies during the person’s tenure and for one year thereafter.

10. Section 8 Conflicts Any conflicts must be disclosed to PHA and HUD.
Conflicts of interest may be waived by HUD for good cause.

11. Public Housing Conflicts
Section 19 of Part A of CACC
HA, its contractors and subs may not enter into a contract in connection with a project under the ACC if the following persons have an interest in the contract:

12. Public Housing Conflicts
Present or former members or officers of the HA or their immediate families.
Employees of the HA, their immediate families or partners who:
Formulate policy or who influence decisions regarding the project(s).
ALERT: Rule does not apply to tenant commissioners in certain cases.

13. Public Housing Conflicts
Public officials, members of the local government body, or state or local legislators, or their immediate families who:
Exercise functions or responsibilities regarding the project(s) or the HA.
ALERT: Section 19 applies during the person’s tenure and for one year thereafter.

14. Public Housing Conflicts
Conflicts must be disclosed to the HA and
HUD.
HUD may waive conflicts for good cause; IF
permitted under State and Local law.
Person requiring waiver cannot exercise responsibilities or functions regarding the contract to which the waiver pertains.

15. Public Housing Conflicts
Section 19 of Part B of CACC
HA may not hire a person in connection with project if prospective employee is immediate family member of:
Present or former member or officer of governing body of HA (former tenant commissioner – some exceptions).
Employee of HA who makes policy or influences decisions with respect to projects.
Public official, member of local governing body, or State or local legislator, who exercises functions or responsibilities with respect to projects or HA.

16. Public Housing Conflicts
Section 19 of Part B of CACC continued:
Alert: Prohibition applies during class member’s
term and for one year thereafter!
Alert: Class member shall disclose family ties to
HA and HUD!
The requirements of Section 19 of Part B of CACC may be waived
by HA Board of Commissioners for good cause, provided such
waiver permitted by State and local law.
HA Board’s determination of good cause should be well
documented.

17. Public Housing Conflicts
Conflicts of interest not applicable
to General Depository Agreements
or to utility services.
Conflict of interest policy under
Section 19 of the ACC does not
prohibit tenants of an HA from
serving on the HA Board.

18. Public Housing - Hatch Act
You may:
Be a candidate in non-partisan election
Attend political meetings/conventions
Contribute money
Campaign in partisan elections
Hold office in political parties
The seventh area to discuss involves government’s bread and butter – politics.
The Hatch Act provides that Federal employees may…

19. Public Housing -Hatch Act (cont’d)
You may not:
Use official influence to interfere in election
Coerce political contributions from subordinates in support of political party or candidate
Be a candidate in partisan election

20. Public Housing Conflicts
Other important points:
Section 19 conflict of interest provisions do not apply to Indian HAs.
An “Immediate family member” is:
Spouse
Children
Mother or Father
Brothers or Sisters
“half” or “step” relatives included

21. When in Doubt?
Contact your HUD Public Housing Specialist to resolve a question or conflict.

22. Beware:
Contest Coming!

23. Conflicts of Interest Some Illustrations
Public Housing
Section 8
Public Housing
Conflicts of Interest Some Illustrations
Section 8
Section 8
Public Housing
Public Housing
Section 8

24. Illustration #1
Judge Judy is the District Judge of Parker County, Texas. She rents property to tenants with Section 8 vouchers. The Judge has no other dealings with the Section 8 Program.
You “judge” the Judge….is this a conflict of interest?

25. Answer #1
NO.
Judge Judy may continue to rent her property to Section 8 voucher holders.
There is no conflict of interest because she does not exercise any functions or responsibilities with respect to HUD’s Section 8 voucher program: 24 CFR § (a)(3)
Should Judge Judy’s properties or tenants come before her in her capacity as District Judge, she would need to seek further advice from HUD.

26. Illustration #2
Citizen Kane was recently appointed a Commissioner of the Elysian Fields HA.
Mr. Kane is the Community Affairs Director of Reliance Hospital and serves in an unnamed capacity with the Rio Grande Recovery Program, an affiliate of the Hospital.
The Recovery Program leases office space from the HA.
Mr. Kane is a salaried employee of the Hospital, with no stock and/or other ownership interest in the Rio Grande or Reliance Hospital
Can Mr. Kane remain on the HA Board?

27. Answer #2
YES.
Mr. Kane’s appointment as a Commissioner of the Elysian Fields HA does not constitute a conflict of interest with his employment at Reliance Hospital under Section 19 of the ACC.
Mr. Kane has no interest in the lease which Reliance has with the HA, he is merely a salaried employee of the Hospital, and has no ownership in either the Hospital or its affiliate, the Rio Grande.

28. Illustration #3
Bay County HA sought a contractor to complete a parking lot by sealed competitive bids.
The project will be funded with Capital Grant funds.
Eric Smith and Associates is the engineering firm which will oversee the project.
Jones Constructors, Inc. was the low bidder for the job and has been selected for the award of this contract.
The principles of both the engineering firm and the construction company are step-brothers.
* Is this a procurement or non-procurement issue?
This is a procurement of construction services covered by 24 CFR §85.36. M

29. Question and Answer Choices
Can Bay County HA award the contract to Constructors?
A. Yes, because although Eric Smith and the principle of Jones Constructors, Inc. are step-brothers, Bay County HA secured the bid by sealed competitive bid. B. Yes, because they are not immediate family members. C. No, a conflict of interest exists because they are immediate family members. D. No, as long as Eric does not physically handle the money being paid to Jones Constructor’s Inc.

30. Answer # 3
C. No, a conflict of interest exists because they are immediate family members.
Conflict of interest exists for an agent of the HA to administer a contract supported by Federal funds if a member of his “immediate family” has a financial interest in the company selected for the award.
Conflict of Interest for Eric Smith & Associates to administer a construction contract funded with Capital Grant money, since Eric Smith’s step-brother is the President of Jones Constructors, Inc.

31. Illustration #4
The San Antonio HA just lifted its hiring freeze. The HA would like to hire Mona Lisa as a receptionist.
Mona is the step-sister of Leonardo da Vinci, the HA’s Chief of Maintenance and Painting.
Mona’s salary will be paid with Recovery Act Stimulus funds.
Is there a conflict of interest? YN

32. Answer #4
Probably Not.
Section 19(B)(1)(ii) of the ACC provides in part:
“The HA may not hire an employee in connection with a project under this ACC if the prospective employee is an immediate family member of any person belonging to one of the following classes:
(ii) Any employee of the HA who formulates policy or who influences decisions with respect to the project(s). “
The HA’s Chief of Maintenance and Painting would not normally formulate policy or influence decisions with respect to the project(s).

33. Illustration #5
Anxious Annie, the Reagan County, Texas HA Executive Director, is worried that if her brother wins election to the Board of County Commissioners there will be an actual or perceived conflict of interest.
The HA has over 200 units of Public Housing under ACC with HUD.
Should Annie be worried?

34. Answer #5
YES.
If Annie’s brother is elected to the Board of County Commissioners, this will constitute an immediate conflict of interest under Section 19 (A)(1)(iii) of the ACC, since County Commissioners must exercise functions and responsibilities with respect to HAs under State law: V.T.C.A., Local Government Code §§ ; and

35. Illustration #6
“Thrifty” Waters is the Executive Director of the Seadrift, Texas HA.
His wife, Alice, builds web sites as a sideline when she is not running her restaurant.
“Thrifty” would like his wife to build the HA a web site since she can do the job “cheaper” than her competitors.
You advise “Thrifty” that this “looks like” a conflict under Section 19 of the ACC, Part A, and he would need to request a wavier from HUD.
Should “Thrifty” have “smooth sailing” with a waiver request to HUD?
Alice’s

36. Answer #6 Probably Not. Section 19(A)(3) provides:
HUD may waive a conflict of interest for good cause, “if permitted under State and local law”.
And that “no person for whom a waiver is requested may exercise responsibilities or functions with respect to the contract to which the waiver pertains…”
As part of the waiver request, the HA must submit an attorney’s opinion that a waiver of Section 19(A)(1) is permitted by State and local law.
Moreover, “Thrifty” could not “administer” his wife’s contract. The HA Board of Commissioners would have to make other arrangements, acceptable to HUD, for the contract administration.

37. Illustration #7
“River” Banks would like to lease property he owns in Gunbarrel City, Texas to a family which has a Section 8 housing voucher.
Mr. Banks is Executive Director of the Cedar Creek Lake HA.
The Section 8 program for Gunbarrel City is administered by the Trinity River HA.
Can Mr. Banks lease his property in Gunbarrel City to the family with the Section 8 voucher?

38. Answer #7
YES.
Mr. Banks may do so because the Section 8 voucher program for Gunbarrel City is administered by the Trinity River HA.
As ED of the Cedar Creek Lake HA, Mr. Banks would have no functions or responsibilities with respect to the administration of the Trinity River HA Section 8 program: 24 CFR §

39. Illustration #8
The HA of Tennessee City, Texas would like to hire Davey Crockett Company to provide technical assistance (TA) for the Section 8 program.
The company is already under contract to the Recovery and Prevention Corps to provide TA for the HA’s public housing program.
Can the HA hire the Crockett Company to do TA for its Section 8 program?

40. Answer #8 YES. This is a procurement of services.
Under 24 CFR §85.36(b)(3), HUD’s regulation provides that a conflict of interest arises when an employee, officer or agent of the HA, who participates in the selection, award or administration of a contract supported by Federal funds, has a financial or other interest in the firm selected for the award.
Since no employee, officer or agent of the HA has a financial or other interest in the Davy Crockett Company, the HA may hire the company as its TA provider for the Section 8 program.

41. Illustration and Answers #9
Marshall and Associates (M&A) manages HAs and also does Fee Accounting for them.
M&A comes to you with several “conflict of interest” concerns.
What advice would you give in these situations?

42. Illustration and Answers #9
Could M&A manage a HA that has not been under contract for Fee Accounting for a period of one year or more?
YES.
Can M&A manage a HA if M&A is under contract
for Fee Accounting?
NO. If HUD were to permit this, then the HA would
have a contract with M&A as it Fee Accountant in
which M&A, as the HA’s managing “employee” would
have an interest: Section 19 (A)(1)(ii) of the ACC, Part

43. Illustration and Answers #9
3. Could the accounting contract be terminated and a management agreement be executed that includes the accounting?
No, because the conflicts prohibited by Section 19 would
continue for one year after the termination of M&A’s Fee
Accounting contract with the HA.
4. Could Janet Marshall, not as part of M&A, manage a HA
that is under contract with M&A for Fee Accounting?
No, Janet Marshall is an owner of M&A and also a member of the
“immediate family” of her spouse, the other owner of M&A. The
answer for #2 on the previous slide would also apply to any
member of an owner’s immediate family, or an owner’s partner.

44. Illustration #10
Tou Minney Ironsinthefire was recently elected to Marathon, Texas, City Council.
The Chairperson of the Marathon Neighborhood Association wrote HUD asserting that it is a conflict of interest for Tou Minney to serve on the Marathon City Council, and at the same time, participate in HUD’s Section 8 voucher program as a Section 8 landlord.
Do you agree?

45. Answer #10
NO.
The Marathon City Council has no functions or responsibilities with respect to the administration of the Section 8 housing voucher program under HUD regulations: 24 CFR Part 982.
Consequently, it is not a conflict of interest for Tou Minney to continue with his civic duties to Marathon and also rent his property to eligible Section 8 voucher holders.

46. Illustration #11 ALERT: Not TEXAS!
Mr. Clean is the head of maintenance for the Napoleonville, LA, HA’s LaFourche Village Homes (Homes).
The HA has asked HUD for a conflict of interest waiver under Section 19(A)(3) of the ACC, Part A, to permit Mr. Clean’s sister and her three children to lease a unit at the Homes.
The LA Board of Ethics has issued an advisory opinion that this situation would be a conflict of interest under the State Ethics Code.
Should HUD grant the HA a waiver of the conflict?

47. Answer #11
NO.
Section 19(A)(3) permits conflicts of interest to be waived for good cause, if permitted under State and local law.
The LA Board of Ethics has determined that the State Ethics Code prohibits an immediate family member of a public servant from leasing a public housing unit at the public servant's agency.
Accordingly, HUD will not grant the requested waiver because such a waiver is not permitted under State law.

48. Illustration #12
Marvin Manager is the administrator of two apartment projects in El Niño, Texas, that participate in HUD’s Section 8 voucher program through the El Niño HA.
Marvin is also a HA Commissioner.
Is there a problem here?

49. Answer #12
YES.
HUD’s Section 8 Housing Choice Voucher regulations provide that the HA may not enter into any contract in connection with tenant-based programs in which any present member of the HA has an interest: 24 CFR § (a)(1).
Marvin must resign from the HA Board or the HA must seek a waiver of the conflict of interest from HUD.

50. Illustration #13
As a HA employee, can I help sponsor a candidate for the Democratic party for a State Senator?
Yes, but you cannot coerce contributions from subordinates in
attendance in support of your candidate. However, you can make a
personal contribution to his campaign.
Can a HA employee be a delegate to the Republican National Convention?
Yes. You are permitted to run for election and hold office in
a political party.
3. Is it okay for HA employee to run for school board?
Yes, but only if the election is nonpartisan. An election is partisan
if any candidate is running as a representative of a party whose
presidential candidate received electoral votes in the last
presidential election.

51. “The Final Exam Question”
Letter from consultant asking whether contractual arrangement among the Muleshoe Housing Finance Corp (MHFC), Brown & Brown Consultants, Inc. (B&BCI) and John Brown as President of B&BCI creates a conflict of interest, because of MHFC’s ownership of the Village of Coyote Lake (Village).
Conflict of Interest under procurement regs?
Conflict of Interest under Section 8 regs?

52. “The Facts of the Case”
Some of the tenants of the Village participate in HUD’s Section 8 Housing Choice Voucher Program administered by the City of Muleshoe PHA.
MHFC contracted with B&BCI to perform all MHFC’s daily and project management requirements.
John Brown is not a member of MHFC’s Board, not an employee of MHFC or the City, and is not under contract with the City.
The Village is not a recipient of any Federal or private grants.
John Brown, as part of B&BCI’s consulting service, serves without compensation as MHFC’s Executive Director.

53. “The Answer Sheet”
Two conflict of interest provisions which might apply:
24 CFR §85.36(b)(3) – Procurement conflict of interest regulations
24 CFR § – Section 8 Housing Voucher conflicts of interest regulations
No conflict under procurement regs because there is no
“contract supported by Fed funds” being awarded and/or
administered by MHFC: 24 CFR §85.36(b)(3).
No conflict under Section 8 regulations because MHFC is neither the PHA nor a contractor of the PHA administering the Section 8 voucher program for the City: 24 CFR § (a).

54. Thanks for Your Attention!